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来点实际的吧:如何滑冰疙瘩和严重冰面(黑道)

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61#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-12-10 15:34:24 | 只看该作者
炮打雪侠   我也很 upset

我只相信CSIA 和 XXSIA

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补充,要相信你的党组织,只有党可以更有效地救人,不管是什么党  发表于 2013-12-10 19:50
62#
发表于 2013-12-10 17:45:37 | 只看该作者
c和p的牌牌都很upset,俄们这些混混还有什么指望?

63#
发表于 2013-12-10 17:56:30 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 checkmoteur 于 2013-12-10 17:57 编辑

今儿又去滑了一天,well,半天。有一个不好的感觉。

第一,自己说那些仍然有效。

第二,严格说并不是冰,只是hard patch,被那些该死的搓坡的单板刮平了而已,与冰有不小的距离。

——单板可以下steep的么,总么俄见过的从来都是屁股板子一起往下搓?

今儿人好少啊,算上我,golden chair上面的黑道和竞技蓝道,不超过10个人。超级面条雪,处子状态。

滑一段停一下,回头追踪雪迹,发现很多地方,由apex开始,外板的痕迹变粗,只有一小点而已。这是最近两周发展出来的猛踩外板的后果。

个别地方几乎找到hip to hill的感觉,一遍滑一边观察,结果把counter松了,整个人拍在雪面上,第一着陆点为右脸颊......到现在还麻麻的。草。
64#
发表于 2013-12-10 18:01:37 | 只看该作者
西部的雪真是太棒了。再回去,恐怕不会滑了。
65#
发表于 2013-12-10 18:29:03 | 只看该作者
闲的没事上网搜,epicski上有一个帖,其中这个观点比较中肯,俄脚得:

Skiing ice is all about good balance and soft feet.  You need to have a good feel for it.  Skidding through or even side slipping on sharp edges is often the best approach.  

If I were expecting to find unavoidable steep ice in the backcountry, I would be sure to bring a ski with sharp edges and at least a little camber, and maybe even one that would chatter easily.  I hate chatter, but it's better than sliding to my death.

还有这个观点,强调aggressive,跟俄自己的比较像了:

I think the best/simplest thing to remember or try to do to ski it well is to do your best to remain aggressive on your skis. When conditions are ugly, people tend to get defensive and keep more of their weight back or into the hill and getting more weight on the inside/uphill ski, rather than keeping the shoulders level to the fall line and maintaining pressure on the outside/downhill ski. The more you back off, the less effective your edges become, so it becomes a death spiral of defensive skiing to lack of edge grip to total lack of control.

So at the end of your turns, think about keeping the shoulders level to the fall line, reaching down the hill with the pole plant, making the "C" shape with your body, more or less all the little tricks we think about when skiing something a bit steeper. That'll help keep you balanced over the outside ski, so that if/when you do lose your edge grip, you're in a good balanced position to keep your feet underneath you, rather than having them shoot out from under you down the hill and going down on your side.

To actually look good while skiing ice requires a combination of properly tuned gear and delicate pressure control on your edges to keep the ride smooth and minimize any big impulsive forces on the skis that would cause you to lose your edge.

但是也有反面的意见,拿雪地开车举例子,也有道理:

As an eastern skier, I ski and teach on ice all the time. People tend to tense up and fight the ice which really doesn't work well. Small movements vs aggressively pushing the skis - just like driving on ice - quick and aggressive movements will send you quickly to the ditch.

接合自己的一点体会,俄是脚得skidding turn,要算最不坏的结果吧。俄前面说那些,在hard patch上有浮雪时还是有用的,至少还是可以刻下去的。真回到东部的冰上,俄回忆中,主要的做法,还是上面第一条居多。
66#
发表于 2013-12-10 18:38:44 | 只看该作者
忘了发主帖了。那个帖的主帖给出一系列选择:

You are faced with a steep, high consequence slope that's very firm.

What is the safest way to ski it?

-skidded turns (s- turns)
-skidded turns, connected by traverses (hard edged, so no slippage downhill)
-side slip
-carved turns, conected by traverses
-carved turns

These are not just idle questions. Skiing in the backcountry, even though not searched for, will bring you in contact with very firm conditions, and if you have 2000 ft of vertical at 45 degrees...

俄脚得skidded turns, connected by traverses是在东部可以做到的,carved turns, conected by traverses,在西部可以。

足工足本的carved turns,好像不行。

而且,怎么也得是高stance。
67#
发表于 2013-12-10 19:51:56 | 只看该作者
checkmoteur 发表于 2013-12-10 18:38
忘了发主帖了。那个帖的主帖给出一系列选择:

You are faced with a steep, high consequence slope that' ...

人家雪骑大侠说啦,racer比赛的赛道都是拿大水管浇成冰的, 那个racer高站姿搓下来的?

亲,反正都是滑雪,你也行的。

68#
发表于 2013-12-10 20:44:59 | 只看该作者
KuoiGuaBoarder 发表于 2013-12-10 19:51
人家雪骑大侠说啦,racer比赛的赛道都是拿大水管浇成冰的, 那个racer高站姿搓下来的?

亲,反正都是滑 ...



这不是高站姿搓咩?
69#
发表于 2013-12-10 20:49:01 | 只看该作者
checkmoteur 发表于 2013-12-10 20:44
这不是高站姿搓咩?

大侠说是就是
70#
发表于 2013-12-10 20:53:20 | 只看该作者
KuoiGuaBoarder 发表于 2013-12-10 20:49
大侠说是就是

第一,高站姿

第二,双脚

搓。

搓掉前半段,刻后半段。

有问题咩?有问题嫩说啊。嫩不说,俄总么知道涅?
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