NND, 我回家还要我妈写邀请函：（

bullpower

first, let's talk in context of visa application:
let me just ask a simple question



you guys here don't like China and are not Chinese citizen and live in Canada as Canadian citizen while Canada puts a lot of restrictions for Chinese citizen to enter Canada.

Basically why do you still think China should give you all special convenience/benefit to enter China?

Let's think it as a simple way, assume China Canada are two person, do you think China (the person) still needs to be as nice as you think it should be to Canada (the person)? Assume you are the "person" China, what do you would do?

Please answer yes/no.

I don't think you are friends of all people around the world and I don't think anyone of you has been nice to everyone else all the time.

It's as simple as that and everyone should respect that.

You are not Chinese citizen by law, just remember that.

As a canadian citizen, however, you should urge Canadian government to remove all those non-sense restrictions.
That's all you should do and you CAN do!

bullpower

because of FLG/Jiang Du/Zang Du ... overseas chinese are not China citizens,
technically you don't have the right to ask a foreign government to give you all conveniences as if you were still a china citizen

Yes, it's nice to have - I agree and I'd like to enjoy those conveniences too.
but if you don't get it, don't begin to attack/demonize the other country/government.

bullpower

sonicwithtails 发表于 2013-9-24 16:37
没有人天生信任你，你必须证明自己的可信。

区别是，就算你不是美国公民，美国政府也给你提供这样一个途 ...

哦？米国这么好吗？米国申请探亲啥条件，随便来？？米国申请留学签证啥条件？
俺不知道。米国为啥打了伊拉克然后说没发现大规模杀伤性武器？俺车里的GPS是米国出的，
地图时时更新，基本没带错路，结果却用导弹误炸了中国大使馆。。。。

我真没觉得那个政府对待外国人要被要求实施各种便利条件，如果不给还被骂奶奶的。
哪个政府都一样呗。还真把祖国当母亲啊。。。。。。况且现在不是祖国了。。。。。
我没把中国当“祖国母亲”， 所以她条件苛刻，只要不是针对我个人，不是特别离谱（因为有先例，是学别人的），
那就好好遵守呗。。。。。干嘛一个劲又一根筋地黑人家呢。。。。。气大伤身

bullpower

vicboy™ 发表于 2013-9-24 17:37
牛哥，今天怎么了，喝口水，慢慢讲。

报告老大，说来话长。。。。
周日看砖家把脉，看得仿佛孙猴子听了菩提祖师讲经，悟出了道道一样，喜的抓耳挠腮的，
结果周一一操练，完全不是那么回事儿。。。。受打击太大了，
而且我发了这么多贴，还被熊导和瓜瓜在主席台上压着，实在是XMDJH。。。。。

两重打击之下，我脆弱的心里小防线崩溃了。。。。

大家原谅俺飙英文啊，因为条件所限，不能敲中文

bullpower

说了这么多都忘了问jedi master 猫大师好了，难得出山，出了还是来顶我贴的，荣幸，呵呵

bullpower

楼主MM估计都给吓坏了。。。。。后悔当时发这个牢骚贴。。。哈哈

bullpower

vicboy™ 发表于 2013-9-24 19:42
光中文行吗？要不要英文翻译，然后公证？

老大要活活把我气S了，哈哈
堂堂正正中国公民老妈写封信给咱中国领事馆，凭啥要翻译成英文！

咱要是有时间，就整封毛笔写宣纸上，写草书！再盖个红戳！
领事馆收了，裱好了挂大厅里增加点中国文化！让那些CBC，小留啥的学着点，
甭来了加拿大了就忘了本。

bullpower

sonicwithtails 发表于 2013-9-25 09:46
不但楼主mm，其实我也被吓着了。

我都没想到这世上有那么多受了不方便，却要为造成这种不方便（起码是造 ...

the culture is your root, at least it's mine.
it has nothing to do with the government/your passport.

I'm not appraising, neither do I like what China enforces in visa application.

I simply don't like LZ or you attacking/demonizing China based on the change of visa application.
I personally don't see anything wrong with the change China made to visa application.
I defend China against your biased judgement/comments.

bullpower

sonicwithtails 发表于 2013-9-25 10:17
it has nothing to do with the government/your passport.

既然你说要宣传文化，跟政府无关，那你为何要 ...

why not? consulate office is a good place for promoting the culture.
I consider it as an office, a place where Chinese people/overseas chinese people and their descendants go/

bullpower

sonicwithtails 发表于 2013-9-25 10:31
不太理解为啥因为你consider领事馆是一个“办公室”，它就由一个政府机关变成了“办公室”。不过whatever ...

you like the beach/ocean/food in Cuba but you don't have to like/support Cuba government
I can defend China just like I can defend any ordinary people on street because
they did not do anything wrong in this specific "visa application case"
but other people begin to attack/demonize this total stranger.
Not to mention that China is no stranger to me, I was born and grew up there. Its culture is my root.
I'm proud of it

I don't know what's going on with you guys but
it seems like you guys hate china and curse China. I do have unpleasant experiences in China, just like in Canada or
everywhere else. I don't think such unpleasant experiences led me to hate/to curse/to attack/to demonize China.
I don't know what kind of experiences that can lead to such deep hatred in your hearts.

I'll stop right here. I've made my points loud and clear.