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吃中药要小心了-同仁堂牛黄解毒片含有巨量有害毒素

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发表于 2013-8-21 11:24:38 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sonicwithtails 于 2013-8-21 12:35 编辑

I believe one does not even need modern science to understand 以毒攻毒 is BS. We have something else that is called common sense.

Now just for the fun of it, let's suppose 以毒攻毒 is not BS. Then i argue Chinese people already have the purest bodies in the world and therefore do not need any extra medicine. You see, they already breathe in poisonous air and eat poisonous foods everyday -- that's plenty of free treatment. Why pay more?
沙发
发表于 2013-8-21 13:17:36 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sonicwithtails 于 2013-8-21 14:51 编辑
bullpower 发表于 2013-8-21 13:59
such a narrow minded statement.

nobody would ask you to take poisonous matters blindly, definitel ...


If I do not have flu but I take a flu vaccination, does this vaccination poison me? if vaccine alone does not poison me, then why do I define it as poison?

I am aware there is an ongoing debate on vaccines and some people claim they are poisonous. But some others claim they are not...I believe you belong to the former group.

I define poison as common sense poison, as something that harms you when you take it alone.

I guess my definition is just wrong.

BTW before I traveled to Africa, doctors recommended that I took at least 7 extra vaccines. in your definition, they just asked me to get 7 shots of poisons.

点评

the side effect is actually obvious. these days when i look into mirror, my head appears narrower...  发表于 2013-8-21 13:35
it might be, you should go and ask side effect...  发表于 2013-8-21 13:29
板凳
发表于 2013-8-21 13:38:37 | 显示全部楼层
bullpower 发表于 2013-8-21 14:28
how do you know? Don't u remember you need to answer a long list of questions before flu vaccinati ...

I think this argument has sound logic and covers something I never cared to think about before. Thanks. Good education for me.
地板
发表于 2013-8-21 13:43:40 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sonicwithtails 于 2013-8-21 14:49 编辑

"中药讲究一个配伍,各种有毒素的药物配合在一起会起到一定的中和,毒素也会消除。"

even if the logic makes sense, chinese experts have zero credibility for me to believe them in any particular case.

Now can these geniuses put some extra poison into Chinese milk so that babies do not need to drink German milk powders anymore?
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发表于 2013-8-21 15:13:30 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sonicwithtails 于 2013-8-21 16:17 编辑

搞了半天这毒的定义就是“适当剂量的可能对人体有害的物质”。问题是世间万物都是“可能对人体有害的”,都是可以有副作用的,比如西瓜。所以任何药,不管中药还是西药,岂非都可以被定义为用来攻毒的“毒”。

我们文盲群众一般都认为毒应该是什么蝎子啦,响尾啦,七步倒啦,蒙牛啦。

从这个角度来说,你的逻辑当然是没啥错的。但这同时也说明了,”以毒攻毒“其实只是标题党。名字看着震撼,其实没有任何创意。
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发表于 2013-8-21 15:52:28 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sonicwithtails 于 2013-8-21 17:01 编辑
bullpower 发表于 2013-8-21 16:36
some matters are highly toxic to human beings, some are less, and it all depends on different situat ...


我都同意了“适当剂量的可能对人体有害的物质(比如西瓜)可以治病”是真理。
我只是认为:
这个所谓的真理根本没有任何技术含量,说了等于没有说,却通过什么“以毒攻毒”这种吓人的标题来暗示自己如何高深如何独特。饶了半天才发现世界上所有的药原来都可以定义成“以毒攻毒”,发明这种说法的人典型标题党,不值得我尊敬。

ignorant那是肯定的,本来书读的就少。这不今天学了很多知识么。
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发表于 2013-8-21 16:12:15 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sonicwithtails 于 2013-8-21 17:23 编辑
bullpower 发表于 2013-8-21 17:04
be careful to say "all"

If you don't know "all", don't assume "all" and make a judgement on "all" ...


我不得不说你又陷入了典型的虚无主义。你认为人如果不是全知的,就不能对事物有judgement。
问题是没有人是知道一件事物的全部的,所以根据你的观点,世界上没有任何人有资格对任何事物发表观点。

wait,你为什么能有观点?根据你的观点,你不能有观点。

你看,你刚才还说我ignorant。请问这是不是一个judgement? 你为啥能有这个judgement?do you know all?

(actually我也明白你不是虚无主义,你就是自己喜欢个啥东西,就讨厌别人说句坏话。自家的孩子看上去总是世上最聪明伶俐的,可以理解。)

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另外俺飙英文是因为在公司没法敲中文。。。呵呵。。。。  发表于 2013-8-21 22:49
别在意啊,俺先抱拳行个礼。。。  发表于 2013-8-21 22:49
你今天说的很多东西是有道理的,我会思考和借鉴。另外我这人的说话方式一直都欠揍,被人k几句那是无法避免的。。。  发表于 2013-8-21 16:43
这个你有误会。我认为提出”以毒攻毒“这个说法并用它来糊弄我们无知百姓的人是标题党,你不是。  发表于 2013-8-21 16:33
i'm poisonous, i attacked you because you said I'm "biao ti dang", you are poisonous too, haha  发表于 2013-8-21 16:26
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发表于 2013-8-21 16:45:18 | 显示全部楼层
luvski 发表于 2013-8-21 17:33
俺弟的儿子都三岁了, 这次还让俺老爸老妈带奶粉回去, 俺找遍了都找不到给三岁以上孩子吃的奶粉, 这里谁 ...

我爸妈想买老年奶粉带回去自己吃,但这里好像根本不生产老年人奶粉的。想想也是,这里牛奶这么便宜。

各位有啥看法?实在不行就买婴儿奶粉让他们回去吃?其实应该也差不多吧?汗。。。无知啊!!
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