大回转示意图

Phoenixtear

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Snowspring, can you explain a little bit more in detail about the difference between inclination and angulation?

Phoenixtear

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邓小平语："管他黑猫白猫，抓到老鼠就是好猫"。

lupo

邪教正教都应该源自一个宗师--奥地利

我来尝试理一下线索，csia的滑雪课体验过，课上练习过一些动作和玛蒂娜那个视频里面一样，比如用手协助体会顶跨，双手拿雪仗抬高小回体会上身不动等。玛蒂娜的单腿标枪转又和沙发滑雪、老怪的练习动作如出一辙。玛蒂娜的小回体会动作又和日本教学视频一样。里奇的6级小回转应该也是奥地利来的吧？老怪强调的high-c，在bode miller那里叫提早入弯。

可见，滑着滑着，殊途同归是必然的。

lupo

上面结尾还加一句，引用v老大的话是：
滑的都一样，一点个性都没有！

lupo

Phoenixtear 发表于 2011-3-2 00:24
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Snowspring, can you explain a little bit more in detail about the difference ...

sofa ski 里面有一段

leaning to the inside就是inclination


滑雪应该是个动态的过程，没有绝对的不内倾或者外倾，只有在适合的时间做和合适的动作。


转弯过程中压刃的动作，必然是顶跨做 angulation

lupo

jimmelon  个性还是有的吧, 像沙发和jf

不好意思，俺没有表达清楚。如果高手滑的都一样，一点个性都没有！

lupo

Phoenixtear  谢了，不过你这样贴出来不会侵犯版权吗？

这个是DVD厂商的广告！！

lupo

inclination就是lean to the inside,angulation就是在身体倾斜的同时，上身反过来成一个角度朝着山下吧，就像视频中1:52那样？

没错，1:38是动态分析，52那个是基本姿势。

snowspring

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Yeah thanks Lupo.  I went to BM today so I could not reply to PT earlier.  Both inclination and angulation will result in edging but have different bio-mechanics in terms of the the position of the big body joints.  Inclination only requires the the body leaning into the hill in a lateral direction. - without causing the joints to change positions.  Angulation will cause the joints to move in different directions so that they are in different angles to one another.  Angulation can result in more edge angle with more stability but inclination, while not being able to edge a lot,  can initate turning quite easily.  I guess you can initiate the turn with simple edging but inclination can also sometimes mix edging with a slight sliding when you begin the turn  (Of course this is not recommended by Harb but I find that very useful when you are doing intermediate // turns taught by the CSIA).  In any event,  you can use a mix of the inclination and angulation, like Kathy Prophet says, first inclination then angulation, and it is up to you to feel the degree of finesse you want.  It is a nice way to ski without too much effort once you get the rhythm it is really quite enjoyable.   

FloatFar

谢谢分享！绝对给力的理论知道，决定照猫画虎照葫芦画瓢的跟着练。