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91#
发表于 2015-4-17 07:20:35 | 只看该作者
Is OSD an actual solution in all situations?  My observation:

1) Freestyle mogul skiers use a lot of slipping.  That's what they practice since day one.  I don't think OSD is good for handing side slipping.
2) Freestyle mogul ski basically has no side-cut.  They don't want to catch an edge since they will give them the side motion which they don't want (especially when going down the zip line).  OSD would not help.
3) Freestyle skier prefer to be center on their feet.  Having weight on inside foot is unpreventable.  They don't set the feet out to set an edge for steering.  OSD is not needed.

For technical bump skiing, it is a completely different story.  Like people said, here we are basically doing short turns and OSD is important.



B2兄弟,你认为OSD是你说的这个样子吗?
说OSD,还得先定义什么是OSD,反正不是os only

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Dominate for me mean at least a 80/20 ratio. What's your definition?  发表于 2015-4-17 10:51
92#
发表于 2015-4-17 07:33:52 | 只看该作者
b-p 发表于 2015-4-17 07:20
B2兄弟,你认为OSD是你说的这个样子吗?
说OSD,还得先定义什么是OSD,反正不是os only ...

很对,
请B2大侠确认下freestyle 有没有Edge。
93#
发表于 2015-4-17 08:00:41 | 只看该作者
Paul Lorenz的 蘑菇是比较接近 freestyle滴。大包时也还是有哈腰缓冲滴。如果不哈,估计脊柱受不了。
不喜勿喷

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一般身体的自然反应,问题不大  发表于 2015-4-17 11:20
他的哈腰是震出来的  发表于 2015-4-17 11:19
有edge set , Paul Loren 的滑法是more technical then freestyle  发表于 2015-4-17 11:02
94#
发表于 2015-4-17 08:17:58 | 只看该作者
常hold的住 发表于 2015-4-17 08:00
Paul Lorenz的 蘑菇是比较接近 freestyle滴。大包时也还是有哈腰缓冲滴。如果不哈,估计脊柱受不了。
不喜 ...

我不喜欢,我不喷,坚决不喷,打死我也不喷
95#
发表于 2015-4-17 08:28:14 | 只看该作者
B2L2 发表于 2015-4-17 00:38
Sorry, I don't consider what Jonny Moseley showed in this video as a Freestyle bump skiing skill.
...

你到底滑过没滑过free style
或者非free style
我不用convince你,我不会滑蘑菇
要不要OSD,滑两趟就知道了。

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沒有問題,等我學會再回來同大家講。  发表于 2015-4-17 11:04
96#
发表于 2015-4-17 11:02:16 | 只看该作者
B2L2 发表于 2015-4-16 18:38
Is OSD an actual solution in all situations?  My observation:

1) Freestyle mogul skiers use a lot  ...

freestyle mogul skiing and technical skiing and ski racing are foundamentally the same. The slipping turn is to practice control of balance, edge and pressure, similar acts exists in technical skiing (i.e. CSIA braquage turn) and ski racing (slipped slalom turns). Use of outside ski may not be as much as skiing on groomed, it has more grip and control, and serves a a safenet to fall back on when the skier trembles a little. And all high performance skiers would prefer to be centred on their feet skis (i.e. racing, CSIA centred balance ... the mobile part is only for when you fall off the centre to get back) Both slalom racing and freestyle racing avoid the perfectly rounded turns for better speed, the turn shapes similar to that of a comma is preferred. the a/e on mogul affects the visual of turning.

The mogul skis are relatively straight similar to that of the U18 FIS GS skis, typically ranging between low to mid 20s, i.e. F17 WC 175cm is about 24m, RC4 WC GS 174CM is about 24m also

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Thx jluo for the extra info and I totally agree.  发表于 2015-4-17 12:08
97#
发表于 2015-4-17 11:12:20 | 只看该作者
SiyangXie@FB 发表于 2015-4-16 14:54
多谢你的细致的分析和中肯的批评!

我想我确实是像你说的,太过于注重一些表征的姿态,上身稳不稳,是否 ...

在groomer上基本功练习!
98#
发表于 2015-4-17 11:22:45 | 只看该作者
B2L2     Dominate for me mean at least a 80/20 ratio. What's your definition?  发表于 25 分钟前


I don't think the # matters that much. it is to me that if shit happens to the other foot, the dominate food can remain in control and keep balance

99#
发表于 2015-4-17 13:55:27 | 只看该作者
jluo 发表于 2015-4-17 11:22
I don't think the # matters that much. it is to me that if shit happens to the other foot, the dom ...

Shit happens all the time in moguls
100#
发表于 2015-4-17 14:31:03 | 只看该作者
bullpower 发表于 2015-4-17 13:55
Shit happens all the time in moguls

so you will need that dominate foot to pull you back
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