NND, 我回家还要我妈写邀请函：（

sonicwithtails

it has nothing to do with the government/your passport.

既然你说要宣传文化，跟政府无关，那你为何要提到把啥啥啥挂到领事馆？领事馆是跟政府没关系还是跟护照没关系？LOL

bullpower

sonicwithtails 发表于 2013-9-25 10:17
it has nothing to do with the government/your passport.

既然你说要宣传文化，跟政府无关，那你为何要 ...

why not? consulate office is a good place for promoting the culture.
I consider it as an office, a place where Chinese people/overseas chinese people and their descendants go/

luvski

cd810 发表于 2013-9-24 15:37
这个贴子太有意思了，来加这么多年把“人道”这个词给忘了，“人道”是什么意思呀？还有中国的“人道”与加 ...

OMG， 这个贴竟然把你给震出水面了！！

多年未见， 进来可好？

sonicwithtails

bullpower 发表于 2013-9-25 11:21
why not? consulate office is a good place for promoting the culture.
I consider it as an office, a ...

不太理解为啥因为你consider领事馆是一个“办公室”，它就由一个政府机关变成了“办公室”。不过whatever。。。

希望你不要把我说的“对中国保持特殊感情”，偷换概念成只是想“了解中国文化”。我如果不对中国有特殊的感情，我大老远开车去你的那个“办公室"了解那个对我跟古巴完全没有不同的国家的文化干嘛？我不能在家看电视？油不要钱的么？

你到底是否希望海外华人对中国有特殊的感情？

如果答案是肯定的，那这次的事情很显然只能减少海外华人对中国政府的好感，而不是增加。但你还是对此支持。你的行动和你所希望达到的目的背道而驰。

你两者都想要，两条船都要踩，却似乎拒绝承认你只能两选一。

skisnowboardca

阿牛一看有架吵， 就很开心：）

bullpower

sonicwithtails 发表于 2013-9-25 10:31
不太理解为啥因为你consider领事馆是一个“办公室”，它就由一个政府机关变成了“办公室”。不过whatever ...

you like the beach/ocean/food in Cuba but you don't have to like/support Cuba government
I can defend China just like I can defend any ordinary people on street because
they did not do anything wrong in this specific "visa application case"
but other people begin to attack/demonize this total stranger.
Not to mention that China is no stranger to me, I was born and grew up there. Its culture is my root.
I'm proud of it

I don't know what's going on with you guys but
it seems like you guys hate china and curse China. I do have unpleasant experiences in China, just like in Canada or
everywhere else. I don't think such unpleasant experiences led me to hate/to curse/to attack/to demonize China.
I don't know what kind of experiences that can lead to such deep hatred in your hearts.

I'll stop right here. I've made my points loud and clear.

bullpower

luvski 发表于 2013-9-25 10:25
OMG， 这个贴竟然把你给震出水面了！！

多年未见， 进来可好？

who is this da xia? I'm glad this discussion re-surfaces all da xia divers

sonicwithtails

bullpower 发表于 2013-9-25 12:56
you like the beach/ocean/food in Cuba but you don't have to like/support Cuba government
I can def ...

我们这里说的本来就是中国政府，这事儿不是中国人民要求做的改动，关中国人民何事？

明明是你在这里说了半天“中国，中国“，什么"You attack China. I defend china", 而不是”中国政府”，结果还需要你来提醒别人不要偷换概念？

你明明知道我“攻击”的时候说的是“中国政府”不人道，而不是“中国人民”不人道，白纸黑字写在那里。你哪里看出来我就恨中国老百姓了？你还“困惑“？困惑什么? 困惑自己偷换概念把自己都搞混了？困惑这个世界上竟然有人可以喜欢一个国家的人民但同时讨厌这个国家的政府？

你到最后总算补了一句“不要把政府和人民混淆”，否则早被我LOL了。

bullpower

sonicwithtails 发表于 2013-9-25 12:06
我们这里说的本来就是中国政府，这事儿不是中国人民要求做的改动，关中国人民何事？

明明是你在这里说了 ...

I'm curious, what CHina government did to you before? And How did you escape out of China and come to Canada?

and I don't think asking for an invitation letter for visa application is "in-humane"
Not asking for one is "more humane" for sure.

Why don't you do something to the Canadian Government to make it "more humane" in terms of visa application?
You pay $$$ tax and those canadian goverment visa officers simply don't do their jobs and yet they went on strike.....
blocking  family re-unions/student coming to canada to study.....that's not humane as far as I understand.

That's something you should and can take some action to make an influence.

Ok, I'll shut up right here right now. No more discussion about visa application.

sonicwithtails

I'm curious, what CHina government did to you before?

按照你的说法，过去的都是how many years ago了。按照你的how many years ago的观点，讨论过去干嘛？

你是不是准备让我从大跃进，文革，我爷爷怎么被批斗抄家，我家怎样从富裕变成赤贫，我的叔叔阿姨怎样上山下乡说起，最终导致滞留他乡，亲人之间只能每隔三五年见一次？我的父母是怎样被欺骗，被胁迫去批斗他们尊重的老师？

如果一个政府迫害过你全家，以及千千万万个其它家庭，你很难理解有人恨么？你不是感情很丰富的么？还是你准备继续说，那是how many years ago?

忘记过去，不但是对中国人民的背叛，也是对所有被迫害后仍旧在世的中国人民的侮辱。

就算是今天，每天也在发生各种人间悲剧。我提出你不信可以看天涯，估计这句话被你选择性忽略了，然后你就继续困惑“中国政府很人道的呀，没干过啥坏事呀，怎么就有人不满呢？”

上作文课就是学习如何无中生有的说谎，上政治课就是被BS洗脑，上中国革命史就是毫无意义的死记硬倍。童年没有快乐，只有读书，只有竞争。。。

有必要说更多么？你是真的不懂还是假的不懂？

当然，这些童年的不快你都选择性忘记了。

因为你忘记了，所以你困惑了。

我发觉你真的有很多困惑。