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 楼主| 发表于 2013-10-30 23:28:42 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 bullpower 于 2013-10-30 23:58 编辑

我理解挺靠谱啊,去年花了大把论坛币购买了老大复印的中央红头文件,一直没看,
今天翻了一下 学习了一下, 党还是没藏着掖着的,V老大下次最好能给点TIPS AND POINTERS,
俺们自己大海捞针去刨, 有点费劲。。。。

Steering:
the blend of edging and pivoting with the control of the resulting pressure. Steering
allows the skier to choose a variety of turn shapes. Different blends of edging and pivoting allow
the skier to control speed or to maintain speed or accelerate by reducing braking.
STEERING除了转弯,还有控速,当然转弯一个主要目的是为了控速。。。但下面会说,
SKIDDING也是辅助控速的 - 这个和转弯没关。。。
有点饶舌。。。。

Carving: turns with little or no skidding, with the tails of the skis following the tracks made by
the tips
没有100% CARVING哦。

Skidding: the sideways travel of one or both skis across the snow. Necessary for speed control.
侧滑(SKIDDING)不是坏事,而是一项技术!
但太多了可能就不好了。这个和杂志里讲的一样。


PIVOTING

Pivoting and direction change
With the upper body facing the direction of travel, turning the legs in the hip sockets creates a
steering angle. This, combined with ski sidecut, deflects the skier in their arc. Pivoting is seen in
the relationship between the upper and lower body.

Pivoting and balance
The ability to guide the skis on their path without relying on hip or upper body rotation will help
a skier maintain balance by keeping the body over the outside ski. From the hips down there is
less mass than in the torso, so changing direction with the lower body is quicker and lets the
COM move in a smoother trajectory.

Pivoting and edging
Upper/lower body separation enables a skier to balance on their edges through angulation.
Turning the femur in the hip socket allows the hip joint to be more mobile laterally to the inside
of the turn, helping to balance on the edges.

Pivoting and rotation
Turning the hips or the upper body before the legs at any part of the turn is called rotation. At the
top of the arc (phase 2) this could be caused by a rushed weight transfer (timing and pressure
control) or an imbalance from phase 1. Through the bottom of the arc (phase 3 into 1) it may be
caused by poor steering mechanics or a loss of control of angular momentum.
Note: See Biomechanics and skiing: Angular motion, Angular momentum and Planes of balance:
Rotational.

EDGING

Edging and Direction Change
When there is a change of direction, edging is involved. Edging provides the grip that counters
the force of gravity and centrifugal force, keeping the skier turning. The degree of edging is
determined by how fast the skier is going when they turn, and whether they wish to decelerate,
maintain speed or accelerate. Good edge control makes the ski grip but allows maximum
gliding for any given direction change.

Edging and Pressure Control
Turning on an edged ski or skis generates forces that give the skier a sensation of weight, or
pressure. When the skis are flattening (phase 1) they are releasing their grip and the load against
the snow diminishes. When the skis are turned across the line of travel (phase 2, 3) forces build
and the COM gets deflected. Edge angle increases and pressure builds. Bigger forces from higher
speeds and steeper terrain place greater loads on the skier which must be managed.

Inclination and angulation

Inclination refers to the line of lateral balance between the BOS and COM. This degree of lean is
what the skier must do to counteract the forces of the turn, and it changes within each turn in
response to speed, external forces and intended path of travel. Too much lean and the skier stands
on the inside ski or falls over, and not enough makes it impossible to maintain the arc of the turn.

Angulation is the bending of body segments as the skier inclines. Controlled by the use of ankles,
knees and hips, it keeps the skier in balance against the edges and lets the skier produce edge
angles that are greater than what can be achieved with inclination alone.

Turn Initiation – changing the line of inclination
While balanced on an arc, the COM is inclined to the inside of the BOS. To change direction, the
skier must change this line of inclination, putting the COM to the inside of the new arc. A wedge
or stem is a way of placing the BOS to the outside of the new turn, changing the line of
inclination to the new side.

In parallel skiing this “toppling” can be achieved by releasing pressure on the outside ski and/or
transferring it to the other ski. This effectively shifts the BOS from the downhill ski towards the
outside of the new arc, changing the line of inclination. A smooth release in phase 1 is also a way
of getting the COM to the inside of the new arc. Most edge changes involve combinations of
these elements, and can be passive or active, simultaneous (parallel) or sequential (wedge),
depending on the skills and desires of the skier.

Note: See Biomechanics and skiing: Stability, Direction, Impulse, Angular motion and
Momentum, as well as Planes of balance: lateral

话说党今年的主题仿佛是“FUNCTIONAL USE OF ALL JOINTS ( MOBILE STANCE)”
和去年完全不一样了(去年是放平了板搓搓搓转转转?)

关节不好的同雪们,该扎针的扎针,该按摩的按摩,该抹印度神油的赶紧抹,
有啥神医信息赶紧公开共享一下。。。。

今年不再回避单脚滑,不但有外脚单脚滑,还有明确提出内脚单脚滑
JAVELIN TURN,跳转180(正滑,跳转180倒滑,在跳转正滑),和360S SPIN啥变态DRILL都
明目张胆滴写进红头文件里了。。。。这是要老夫我逼进公园吗?这些跳转的,不MOBILE不行啊。。。

INTERMEDIATE SHORT TURNS + INTRODUCTION TO BUMPS 也赫然在目。。。。。

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精辟!  发表于 2013-11-3 20:42
哈哈,当然没问题  发表于 2013-10-30 23:54
转得好,原文拷贝进我滑雪楼没意见吧?  发表于 2013-10-30 23:50
好的stance等于完成了百分之90的工作!  发表于 2013-10-30 23:45
12#
发表于 2013-10-31 08:29:32 | 只看该作者
阿牛, 这个雪季我要和你在一起!

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oh yeah, ski with the principal.........  发表于 2013-10-31 11:40
在一起在一起在一起  发表于 2013-10-31 08:57
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发表于 2013-10-31 12:31:50 | 只看该作者
年初俄发过一个片子哦,c的老兄试图解释steering的精微所在,p的老兄一砖头拍死:no, you're pivoting...

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pivot也是steer啊  发表于 2013-10-31 12:37
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-10-31 12:36:26 | 只看该作者
再发一个    多谢

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFK2rGL_Wmo 这个我觉得很不错。  发表于 2013-10-31 23:32
正在找……  发表于 2013-10-31 12:38
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发表于 2013-10-31 15:53:50 | 只看该作者
bullpower 发表于 2013-10-31 00:28
我理解挺靠谱啊,去年花了大把论坛币购买了老大复印的中央红头文件,一直没看,
今天翻了一下 学习了一下, ...


很有深度的技术参考。
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-10-31 16:00:42 | 只看该作者
firehwak2018 发表于 2013-10-31 15:53
很有深度的技术参考。

hm....deep in what I said or what I quote,  haha

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注释也是一门艺术  发表于 2013-10-31 16:12
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-10-31 23:44:09 | 只看该作者
多谢LUPO推荐,超级赞!
膜拜MOGUL里整大回转的!

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四级考试的内容,蘑菇+陡坡里的GS!  发表于 2013-11-1 00:11
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发表于 2013-11-3 19:13:01 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 c_sea 于 2013-11-3 20:52 编辑

CSIA   里面的专业术语, 对于英语不是第一语言的我们来说, 有时是非常难以理解的。 当初我考过了一级的时候, 对CSIA教材里面的东西, 我起码还是有80%的东西没有搞懂。

随着时间的推移, 一遍一遍的看教材, 结合自己的体会, 才能慢慢地理解这些东西。

Steering, 去年V老大已经有了很好的阐述了。 借阿牛哥的吉帖, 我也说说自己的理解。

在说steering的滑雪解释之前, 让我们先忘掉滑雪。 看看Steering的中文翻译, 是操纵, 掌舵, 驾驶,掌控的意思。 这些解释,基本上就是说人在掌控一个交通工具。 让我用开汽车来解释。 如果我们说阿牛操纵汽车的能力很强, 你会有什么映像? 本人脑海里闪现的就是, 阿牛能合理使用加速, 合理使用刹车, 该快就快, 该慢就慢。转弯的时候能随着路况大弯能转, 小弯也能转, 盘山公路上的急转弯也转得好。 阿牛在很窄的地方也能平行趴车, 很小的空间也能倒库等等等等。    总之我坐他开的车, 我觉得放心可靠安全, 因为车是被他完全掌控的。

那么阿牛掌控汽车的能力, 是一个技术吗?显然不是,它是多项技术的组合。它是转方向盘,踩油门,放油门,踩刹车的组合。  我们不能把阿牛操纵汽车的能力, 跟臭鱼能快速打方向盘的技术去相比,要比较也只能比阿牛跟臭鱼谁打方向盘打得更快更好更精确。 

再回头看CSIA对steering的阐述(Steering- Blend of edging and pivoting with control of the resulting pressure。 Steering allows the skier to choose a variety of turn shapes), Steering显然不是一项技术, 而是把几个技术的组合以后,滑雪者所达到的一种能力。 我翻译Steering就是滑雪者对雪板的操控能力。 简单说, 就是滑雪者通过切(Edging), 拧(Pivoting),压(控制对雪板的压力,Pressure control) 来使雪板走出滑雪者想要的可大可小的转弯。这Steering是CSIA五大神技中的三个的组合。

以上是我对CSIA的Steering的理解和解释。 我不知道别的流派对Steering是如何解释的,不过别的流派如何解释也不是我在本帖想要探讨的内容。


 

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kuang2 zan4!  发表于 2013-11-6 13:07
绝对的好!!!  发表于 2013-11-3 21:47
精辟!  发表于 2013-11-3 20:14
好东西,醍醐灌顶,膜拜大侠  发表于 2013-11-3 19:44
学习中  发表于 2013-11-3 19:43
19#
发表于 2013-11-3 20:25:32 | 只看该作者
c_sea 发表于 2013-11-3 19:13
CSIA   里面的专业术语, 对于英语不是第一语言的我们来说, 有时是非常难以理解的。 当初我考过了一级的时 ...

收藏了。 切拧压这段以后会引用
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发表于 2013-11-3 20:48:08 | 只看该作者
阿牛掌控汽车好就是技术好,不容置疑的好
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