TFR

KuoiGuaBoarder

请问面侠：

1， HH平地上的TFR 是用刃转的吗？
2， 如果是的话， 转弯半径是多大
3， 如果不是的话， 这是不是pivoting？

4， 这是不是只是一个demo， 说明不了任何问题？

面条雪

看看HH自己说的吧：

First, the "Two Footed Release" may be well beyond your capabilities. In fact, it may hurt your skiing, if you don't have a weight transfer, and balancing ability, book 1, or tipping ability, book 1 and 2. Many people think I just write these books to make money and that most of it is fluff, well I have news for you, every page in my books holds information you need to know, if you want to teach yourself to ski. I have never written a page to fill space.

You might think you have done a TFR, but it may well include an extension or a push to a-wedge and a full upper body rotation. You have to perfect the TFR, with PMTS movements not your old movements you learned from Trad. teaching, and don't just think you have already mastered a TFR. The TFR is a test of all the right PMTS Essentials, I'm amazed people think they have mastered it so easily and quickly, without even having a qualified professional PMTS instructor to validate this. Without a reasonably good TFR you will never progress to the BPST. We spend many hours in our camps teaching the elements of a good TFR and many don't get it the first camp they attend.

I'm sorry I make it look so easy in my videos, but I have skied for 61 years and trained for skiing my whole life, I already developed PMTS movements years ago, yet the TFR is still challenging, especially done slowly. The biggest difference between the TFR and a BPST, once you have the basics perfected, is more tipping and higher angled tipping earlier.

对了，小插曲，max501可是练了几千次的TFR之后，去请HH私教然后才真正搞定的。



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基本功：



TFR的基本练法：


slow brushed carve:


brushed carve:


TFR缓慢地下陡坡：


（立刃不够TFR在陡坡）



carving:




小回：



呃，其实俺觉着看油管学滑雪是很没有前途的

firehwak2018

1.我觉得有立刃，用sidecut助转的成分。
2. 见下。

我觉得有counter-rotation 的成分。 分解看来应该可以说是有一定pivoting的成分。
个人认为按照HH的解释，这个可以看做不断增加的tipping+ counter acting 。

希望PMTS支持者们帮忙解答

KuoiGuaBoarder

面条雪 发表于 2013-2-20 14:15
我都说了言尽于此了，再说我不敢发视频也不敢见人，哪敢再妄谈技术啊，求你放过我吧瓜教授！
你想证明的我 ...

谢谢面侠分享资料

其实我是想和你聊聊PMTS ---> 单板的。


有模有兴趣

KuoiGuaBoarder

KuoiGuaBoarder 发表于 2013-2-20 14:18
谢谢面侠分享资料

其实我是想和你聊聊PMTS ---> 单板的。

雪坷垃

@Bingster ＂

TFR肯定导致板子扭转＂并不是讲用脚拧转板子

这句话很玄机，能否展开说说？

Bingster

面条雪 发表于 2013-2-20 14:15
我都说了言尽于此了，再说我不敢发视频也不敢见人，哪敢再妄谈技术啊，求你放过我吧瓜教授！
你想证明的我 ...

实际上我现在想起来面大侠现在正在专心做PMTS的drills，停止了自由滑，所以不便上视频，没关系。将来上视频嘛，我们不着急。

Bingster

雪坷垃 发表于 2013-2-20 14:29
@Bingster ＂

很简单，PMTS从来都是靠立刃转弯，不是靠拧脚或腿来转弯。
Pivoting是拧脚来转板。

firehwak2018

雪坷垃 发表于 2013-2-20 14:29
@Bingster ＂

我觉得counter acting在这里起到了counter rotation的效果，角动量守恒，所以板子就转了。跟pivoting看的效果是一样的，但动作可能有别。
Counter rotation可参考Bob Barnes的文章，记得是小弯那篇

KuoiGuaBoarder

你们。。。。。， 就知道歪楼。


面侠咱换个地谈哈， 闲人别进哈， 求你们了。


单板， 单板有模有兴趣。