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标题: 想听你对 "爱蒙城" 的意见 [打印本页]
作者: Chocolate    时间: 2014-1-26 23:24
标题: 想听你对 "爱蒙城" 的意见
A few of you who have met me in person know that my command of 中文 is awkward at times. So i am going to post this in English. I would very much like to hear of your comment.

Recently, I saw an announcement on Concordia Ski Club page on facebook, somebody was looking for two ski "coaches" to accompany a group of new Chinese students on a day trip to Owls Head. Owls Head being a favourite mountain of mine, i volunteered, so did another FB member.

It was agreed that our transportation and day pass would be paid for and that we would each be "assisting" 5 to 6 beginners for 2 hours max. At some point before the trip,  I also paid for a $45 ticket for my 8 yo daughter to come along to ski with her dad.

We left for the trip yesterday on 2 rather uncomfortable school buses, unheated and not fit for long trips, took almost 3 hours to get there because apparently we had to have a snack break somewhere near exit 40. For reasons still unclear to me. The first of many strange things that day.

We got to ski sometime after 11am. Both the other volunteer and I were busy trying to work out who we were supposed to be assisting when seemingly 100 absolute beginners were storming the bunny hill and the chair lift. Some wearing jeans and most without even mitts. It was a disaster scene but we made do and managed to get a few, to actually get to a point where they were starting to enjoy it. Even taking 3 more capable ones out to the lake chair run. I managed 3 runs on my own with my daughter before the hill closed down. Feeling okay with the knowledge that i was able to help to the best of my ability, circumstances considered.

This morning, out of curiosity, i googled and found out that the trip had been organised by a for profit group "愛蒙城" advertising...
http://aimengcheng.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=78558&page=1&extra=#pid132658

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I am a certified instructor,  though i never mentioned it when i volunteered. Neither do i feel that the kind of rush survival instruction that i was only able to gave warrants any fee that some of the trip participants might actually have paid to the organiser.

I feel bad. I feel bad even though there were no transaction of money. I feel bad for the participants, it wasn't an ideal introduction to ski. And i have that 被利用的感觉.

Thank you for listening. If you are one of the participants, I apologise sincerely.
作者: KuoiGuaBoarder    时间: 2014-1-27 07:25
无语路过
作者: b-p    时间: 2014-1-27 09:00
无语，理解，同情，路过
作者: StormRider    时间: 2014-1-27 09:39
我没有Face Book, 所以不知道还有这样一个俱乐部。

上周我们这里出了点故障，我们召集了10个人，原定45元包90分钟Group Lesson包雪票包雪板，后来校长说我听错了， 应该是49元，于是我和另一个Instructor 自己掏腰包补贴了差价部分。 是我的错
作者: KuoiGuaBoarder    时间: 2014-1-27 09:47
StormRider 发表于 2014-1-27 09:39
我没有Face Book, 所以不知道还有这样一个俱乐部。

上周我们这里出了点故障，我们召集了10个人，原定45元 ...

师傅仗义，膜拜。

我要学师傅，我也出一个人的分子钱
作者: Chocolate    时间: 2014-1-27 10:45
謝謝各位。话说了，觉得舒服多了。这事就给抛到脑後，至少自己也滑了几趟
作者: luvski    时间: 2014-1-27 11:00
Chocolate 发表于 2014-1-27 11:45
謝謝各位。话说了，觉得舒服多了。这事就给抛到脑後，至少自己也滑了几趟 ...

嗯， 我不开心的时候就喜欢说出来， 说完就舒服了然后就忘了， 这样对自己身体也好。
希望你每天都开开心心的!
作者: lulu    时间: 2014-1-27 11:41
精神上支持巧克力！谢谢把经验分享出来。自己把气理顺了最重要，在facebook上给自己正个名
作者: flake    时间: 2014-1-27 11:45
同情，遇到这种事情是够让人郁闷的。

BTW,  这个应该是concordia ski club 的正式网页吧：http://www.surfthesnow.org/schedule-tickets/
作者: 闹妈    时间: 2014-1-27 11:50
StormRider 发表于 2014-1-27 09:39
我没有Face Book, 所以不知道还有这样一个俱乐部。

上周我们这里出了点故障，我们召集了10个人，原定45元 ...

这种组织活动，一定要书面写下来！今年我去团购Tremblant票，钱早早就预交了，那头竟说找不到凭证。好在我很谨慎，用的支票在网上能得到银行支付凭证。

我还听说过，一个团购意大利之行，旅游公司一开始说15人成行，可免一人票。结果临行前说是16人，没办法，组织者自己掏2千费用。很恶心！真的要小心！

作者: snowrider    时间: 2014-1-27 11:52
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作者: 闹妈    时间: 2014-1-27 11:58
巧克力，别为这些事生气。

有些人搞这种活动就是为挣钱，而且不折手段，也不在乎安全事项，欺骗利用自愿者。以后你就有经验了。。。另外建议以后再遇这种事情，先上咱们网上问问。

还好，没有什么摔伤等，不然你会更郁闷。。。
作者: snowrider    时间: 2014-1-27 12:04
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作者: snowrider    时间: 2014-1-27 12:09
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作者: snowrider    时间: 2014-1-27 12:15
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作者: snowrider    时间: 2014-1-27 12:17
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作者: Chocolate    时间: 2014-1-27 12:44
謝謝 Snowrider, 闹妈.

I am always up to assist if a skier needs help. In fact I was doing that for the most part of the day. I hold no grudge on that. I will continue to do the same. What bugs me was that they really should be more upfront about what they were doing. At least let me know that they were advertising and charging for lesson I was happily giving for free.

The outing is not affiliated with Concordia in any way. 下次會先来这问一问

Snowrider 寫的都是繁體字, 難怪我都看得懂!
作者: snowrider    时间: 2014-1-27 12:53
本帖最后由 snowrider 于 2014-6-15 01:53 编辑

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作者: StormRider    时间: 2014-1-27 13:18
Chocolate 发表于 2014-1-27 10:45
謝謝各位。话说了，觉得舒服多了。这事就给抛到脑後，至少自己也滑了几趟 ...


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第一免费雪票，40% 吃饭折扣，免费培训
第二你不会遇见所谓的 Club 的之类
第三有一个好的学习环境，通常我们只滑一条双黑，反反复复只到你吐为止
作者: paul_zhou    时间: 2014-1-27 15:54
snowrider 发表于 2014-1-27 12:09
Again, we all know that instructors get ripped off by ski resorts, but that is what happens in the s ...

Thank you for info
作者: bullpower    时间: 2014-1-27 16:12
snowrider 发表于 2014-1-27 11:52
Chocolate - Don't feel that way!  The ski industry is just like that ... Ski resorts charge expensiv ...


I totally agree.

Request everything on paper.

To Chocolate, you did the best you can do.
I believe you forgot one very important thing when you agreed on volunteering for the group:
Have the participants all signed a waiver?
Have they asked you to sign a waiver?
I think this is way more important than the class size/transportation/....etc
作者: lupo    时间: 2014-1-27 19:30
同情！慰问！

作者: firehwak2018    时间: 2014-1-27 20:39
这是组织者的问题。大多数新手根本不知道滑雪什么样，组织者也只是凑热闹，就会出这档子事。 反正大家的目的仅仅是“滑雪”而已，只要没有人员伤亡，就不用要求太高。 楼主“被利用”的感觉可以理解，这类的活动就是这样的。参加的人95%都是既没真滑过雪，又无意学滑雪的。太过负责，真像教自己学生一样的去带是累人累心不讨好的事。 而且去的是学生团体，国内绝大多数省市都没有合格的雪场，很多滑过雪的也就仅仅是在bunny hill上当过鱼雷而已，对真正的滑雪运动毫无了解。除非可以在华人中真正普及滑雪知识，让大家真正了解这项运动，而不是仅仅去个雪场拍个照片，传微信传人人发微博，走马观花地时尚一番，否则这类活动很长时间都不会有改变。

同情楼主，淡然过去就好。
作者: 含雪    时间: 2014-1-31 23:01
刚看到这个，支持巧克力上这吐槽。



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