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标题: PSIA's 3 Phases of a Turn (We Don't Call Them 123) [打印本页]

作者: snowrider    时间: 2013-11-22 00:42
标题: PSIA's 3 Phases of a Turn (We Don't Call Them 123)
The phases of a turn in PSIA's eyes consist of:  Initiation, Shaping, and Finishing.

PSIA 定義的迴轉三部曲為:  起始, 控彎, 收尾


作者: KuoiGuaBoarder    时间: 2013-11-22 00:58
Good idea
作者: firehwak2018    时间: 2013-11-22 19:49
initiation control completion
作者: b-p    时间: 2013-11-22 20:41
感谢造物主弄了那么多种语言,同一种语言又搞了那么多词汇,
作者: YaoHuan@FB    时间: 2014-3-30 12:53


有无视频啊?
作者: snowrider    时间: 2014-3-30 14:49
YaoHuan@FB 发表于 2014-3-30 12:53
有无视频啊?

我上網幫你找到這個:
http://www.epicski.com/t/120559/ ... why-is-it-important
這個圖解可以清楚地看到 PSIA 和 CSIA 的 phases:
http://cdn.epicski.com/7/7a/900x ... nPSIATurnPhases.png

作者: StormRider    时间: 2014-4-1 15:09
PSIA 的更有曲线,好看。 CSIA 是冲坡的直线型,黑道上使用很强大
作者: EasyWinter    时间: 2014-4-20 09:05
好看                    
作者: StormRider    时间: 2014-4-20 13:53
谁把CSIA 的曲钱画成这样?

党员们都躲在后面眼看着党这样渡落下去?
作者: snowrider    时间: 2014-4-20 23:31
StormRider 发表于 2014-4-20 14:53
谁把CSIA 的曲钱画成这样?

党员们都躲在后面眼看着党这样渡落下去?

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蒙大 - 千萬別生氣!  氣得這樣草木皆兵的 ... 何苦呢?!  建議你快去 epicski 回帖抗議!  抗議他們都是狗屎!  抗議他們根本不懂 C派大法!

作者: checkmoteur    时间: 2014-4-21 18:18
本帖最后由 checkmoteur 于 2014-4-21 19:24 编辑

CSIA Phases Explained -

First - it is not "apex to apex", nor is it "transition to transition".

Second - it is the turn from start to finish from the perspective of the "skier"....not the "skis".  This may seem pedendatic, but its a critical distinction.


Phase 1 - Begins when we "release the body" from the turn and let it flow or begin moving into the new turn.  It is characterised when the skis begin to REDUCE edge angle.  This will typically be at some point after the fall-line.  Phase 1 ends at skis flat or "neutral".

Phase 2 - is "estabishing the platform".  It begins at skis flat, and ends when the skier has something stable to stand on.This phase is also known as the "intiation phase" for those who read RL.  Note the skier has not started to turn yet (to any appreciable amount)...the skier has only moved across the skis and gotten his mass forward in antcipation of the start of phase 3.  This phase is where the pivot or stivot will happen if there is one.  In the case of turns with some form of stivot this phase is longer...in pure arc to arc skiing particularily at the WC level, this phase is very short.

Phase 3 - is where the skis turn the skier.  We can increase edge angle or manipulate fore/aft pressue here to "steer"....in more skidded turns we can also manipulate the steering anlge via pivoting.  Hence this is where we have alot of control over the shape of the turn, and since the skier is now being turned by the skis we feel the loads greatest here.  Hence this phase is also known as the "control phase" or "shaping phase" or "loading phase".  It ends once we have turned the mass as much as we require and release it to move into the new turn...where Phase 1 begins again.



Blue line is "skier", black is "skis"
作者: checkmoteur    时间: 2014-4-21 18:33
本帖最后由 checkmoteur 于 2014-4-21 19:46 编辑

上面是原帖,仅仅是c的phase的图解,红线是身体的path,黑线是skis的path。

雪侠发那个图,是后来有人在这张图的基础上,加标了p的分法,以资比较:



蓝线仍然是身体,黑线仍然是skis。并不是c和p各画一条线。更不可能有比较c和p的优劣的意思。

这人的结论,也是相当中性的:

I "think" this is pretty close if we are to mach up each others definitions.






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