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作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-1 22:25
标题: 无雪, 无聊, 灌水
本帖最后由 c_sea 于 2010-12-1 22:29 编辑
今年从犹他回来以后看中了Canon Powershot SX210IS, 是一款很好的HD录像,照相都不错的小相机。 价格下来了, 刚买一个,今儿试拍一段HD录像, 效果不错哦,它就是今年滑雪随身带的抓拍利器了。
[youtube]YWPDm74CdwI[/youtube]
作者: bullpower 时间: 2010-12-1 22:27
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作者: luvski 时间: 2010-12-1 22:49
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恩, 的确不错, 画面很清晰色彩也很真实。
作者: 小熊 时间: 2010-12-1 23:29
多少刀?
作者: paul_zhou 时间: 2010-12-2 00:21
同楼上问,我刚定了一个nikon s8100, $250左右
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-2 01:25
本帖最后由 c_sea 于 2010-12-2 01:29 编辑
楼上的,赶巧了, 我的这个也是二百五。
http://www.nextag.com/canon-sx210is/stores-html
作者: skisnowboardca 时间: 2010-12-2 07:27
nice~~~~~~~~
作者: freshair 时间: 2010-12-2 07:38
可以zoom啊!好!
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-2 11:32
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现在不都可以zoom 吗?
作者: 闹妈 时间: 2010-12-2 11:40
c_sea 发表于 2010-12-1 22:25 
今年从犹他回来以后看中了Canon Powershot SX210IS, 是一款很好的HD录像,照相都不错的小相机。 价格下来了 ...
小相机好!携带方便。
作者: xinxinqi 时间: 2010-12-2 13:15
看着不错.我不懂.
有熟人在佳能.能买到员工价.
Point & Shoot Cameras |
Powershot A3000 IS | 89.99 |
Powershot A495 | 69.99 |
| |
Compact & Smart | |
Powershot SD3500 IS | 179.99 |
Powershot SD1400 IS | 149.99 |
Powershot SD4500 IS | 279.99 |
Powershot SD4000 IS | 249.99 |
Compact & Smart是相机吗?
SD型号和你的SX比较如何?
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-2 14:06
标题: test
本帖最后由 c_sea 于 2010-12-2 14:07 编辑
test test
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-2 14:06
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这样说吧:如果将我的Sx210IS 跟你的最高型号Powershot SD4500 IS 放在拳击台上, SD4500IS 将击中SX210IS 两到三拳,而SX210IS 将在第一个回合毫无悬念地技术性击倒SD4500IS .
作者: xinxinqi 时间: 2010-12-2 14:44
c_sea 发表于 2010-12-2 14:06 
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这样说吧:如果将我的Sx210IS 跟你的最高型号Powershot SD4500 IS 放在拳击台上, ...
你啥意思?
给点技术性的建议.
还有Camcorders,是不是买了相机就不用买Camcorder. |
FS 300 | 189.99 |
VIXIA HF S200 | 499.99 |
VIXIA HF M30 | 359.99 |
VIXIA HF R10 | 269 |
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-2 15:21
本帖最后由 c_sea 于 2010-12-2 15:22 编辑
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我的要求就是:小,能每天揣在口袋里滑雪,能拍较好的照片,能拍720P 以上的HD 录像,大倍数的zoom(15倍左右或以上,上,越大越好),
年初做粗略的调查,能满足以上条件的当时有以下几个:
Canon SX210IS 14 x optical zoom
Samsung WB600/650 15 x optical zoom
Panasonic ZS7/TZ10 12 x optical zoom
因为网上评价对SX210IS 很高,YouTube上面又有很多人展示它拍的录像效果很不错,所以SX210IS 是我的首选。
它们当时的价格都在300-500之间。现在大家都降价了,SX210IS 已经降到两百多。
这些相机都是介于一般傻瓜机和DSLR之间的, 可以归于ProConsumer 那一类。 SX210IS 的菜单有所有DLSR 的功能,比如连拍,速度/光圈优先,程序/手动等等。
再往技术的角度深究下去, 我就不懂了, 让臭鱼,Ouer, ddt,小空这些摄影高手给你讲吧。
作者: xinxinqi 时间: 2010-12-2 15:42
本帖最后由 xinxinqi 于 2010-12-2 15:44 编辑
c_sea 发表于 2010-12-2 15:21 
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我的要求就是:小,能每天揣在口袋里滑雪,能拍较好的照片,能拍720P 以上的HD 录像 ...
这回不错.
那CANON Powershot SD4500 IS 呢?因为LIST上没有SX210 IS,只能选择SD了.
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-2 15:55
xinxinqi 发表于 2010-12-2 15:42 
这回不错.
那CANON Powershot SD4500 IS 呢?因为LIST上没有SX210 IS,只能选择SD了.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-powershot-14mp-digital-camera-with-tripod-sx210is-purple-sx210is/10147168.aspx?path=3114e755f48463d5face8dae35ec0f5ben02&lid=fp-10147168-canoncanonpowershot14mpdigital-en
futureshoip onsale 只卖279 , 为啥你一定要用差不多的员工价买低一个档次的呢?性价比而不是价格应当是首要选择要素吧?
作者: arooga 时间: 2010-12-2 16:16
佳能的相机在低温下容易出现机械故障 有的是暂时的 有的是永久的..... 有多次亲身经历的人飘过....
作者: arooga 时间: 2010-12-2 16:17
特别是小型机
作者: arooga 时间: 2010-12-2 16:23
完了 不知不觉泼了楼主冷水 
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-2 16:25
本帖最后由 c_sea 于 2010-12-2 16:26 编辑
arooga 发表于 2010-12-2 16:23 
完了 不知不觉泼了楼主冷水
没事,勇敢承受一切打击,旧的不去,新的不来。
作者: arooga 时间: 2010-12-2 16:29
c_sea 发表于 2010-12-2 16:25 
没事,勇敢承受一切打击,旧的不去,新的不来。
不忍心继续打击你了 当然如果你想炼就钢铁般的意志除外....
作者: 金色年华 时间: 2010-12-2 20:58
arooga 发表于 2010-12-2 16:23 
完了 不知不觉泼了楼主冷水
别关知道泼冷水啊,那你也推荐一个性价比好的,抗热抗寒的,价格250左右啥的。俺正想买西海推荐的,这下又没主意了。。。
作者: arooga 时间: 2010-12-2 21:29
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尚未见到过便宜 像素好 性能好 又三防的相机...... 每款相机都有一定程度上的缺陷... 越完美的价位越高 好的防水防冻720p手持摄像机在500左右 头戴的在250-300左右买滑雪照相&摄像机主要看这么几点:
1.防水
能做到完全防水自然是好 如果做不到那至少也是个能防雨淋的
2.镜头
最好不要是能探出机身的伸缩式镜头 因为伸缩式镜头往往有很多缝隙 容易进水汽 而且天太冷 镜头会冻住 无法收缩;还有一遍滑一遍录 如果摔了 会把镜头磕变形
那些专门的运动摄像机镜头都是在内部的 不能伸缩 很大程度上降低了视频&照片的画质
3. 像素
只说视频的 720p自然是比较好 1080不太实用 运动视频如果是30针每秒 看的会让人晕 如果是在黄昏夜晚拍摄 那更是晕上加晕 有is防抖都没啥用 所以滑雪运动摄像机的要求是以60针每秒的速度拍720p 有is则是更完美
4.手持or 头戴
各有各的好处 如果我有钱 我会买个很好很好的手持 再买个头戴的 两者皆备才是王道 可惜王道不是人人能走的 所以只能二选一 优先考虑手持
5. 摄像机还是带摄像功能的照相机
都号称自己具有720p功能 不过仔细读读参数比较一下 想录像还是得整摄像机
作者: paul_zhou 时间: 2010-12-2 23:36
我不管,我要1080P
作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-12-2 23:46
LZ害人,我也想整个口袋相机了,个人喜欢canon s95.
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-3 00:09
本帖最后由 c_sea 于 2010-12-3 00:13 编辑
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Arooga 的要求很高很专业。 可惜满足这些条件又要小巧的机器可以说没有。 我原先也考虑过Arooga的这些要求, 最终发现跟本就无法实现。既如此, 就的舍弃某些要求, 所以最终锁定了我上面的需求也是现在的小相机技术可以实现的要求。
下面分享一下我对以下的要求的看法:
尚未见到过便宜 像素好 性能好 又三防的相机...... 每款相机都有一定程度上的缺陷... 越完美的价位越高 好的防水防冻720p手持摄像机在500左右 头戴的在250-300左右买滑雪照相&摄像机主要看这么几点:
1.防水
能做到完全防水自然是好 如果做不到那至少也是个能防雨淋的
我个人对相机几乎没有防水要求,因为雨天滑雪不是一件很享受的事情,其实很狼狈,至少我自己绝对没有什么心情去拍照片或录像
2.镜头
最好不要是能探出机身的伸缩式镜头 因为伸缩式镜头往往有很多缝隙 容易进水汽 而且天太冷 镜头会冻住 无法收缩;还有一遍滑一遍录 如果摔了 会把镜头磕变形
那些专门的运动摄像机镜头都是在内部的 不能伸缩 很大程度上降低了视频&照片的画质
如果是专用的运动相机当然最好,不过我不是专业摄影师,没有追求专业的嗜好。 我的相机通常是放在滑雪服里边贴胸的口袋,体温绝对能保证相机可以工作,摔跤也从来不会摔到胸口,也就是胸口的相机从来没有机会遭遇直接碰撞。
至于成像,sx210is的质量已经相当不错了, 当然不能跟DSLR相比。 可是谁又会要求一部小相机的成像质量跟DSLR去相比呢? 能放在YouTube 上就不错了。
3. 像素
只说视频的 720p自然是比较好 1080不太实用 运动视频如果是30针每秒 看的会让人晕 如果是在黄昏夜晚拍摄 那更是晕上加晕 有is防抖都没啥用 所以滑雪运动摄像机的要求是以60针每秒的速度拍720p 有is则是更完美
Arooga 同雪的要求实在是完美, 以60帧/秒 的运动摄像机的要求来买,除非巴吉特无限制, 否则那实在是很难。如果有那个闲钱买专业摄像机去防抖 , 不如带个三角架上雪场似乎更实际一点。
4.手持or 头戴
各有各的好处 如果我有钱 我会买个很好很好的手持 再买个头戴的 两者皆备才是王道 可惜王道不是人人能走的 所以只能二选一 优先考虑手持
头戴, 很好。不过不在我的选择条件之列。一我不是专业摄影师,几乎不会去跟拍。二我的滑雪技术不好,跟拍出来的效果不看也罢。
5. 摄像机还是带摄像功能的照相机
都号称自己具有720p功能 不过仔细读读参数比较一下 想录像还是得整摄像机
SX210IS 的1280*720P摄像功能已经不错了,其照相摄像两方面都兼顾的不错。实际情况是除非我专门去帮别人拍照, 否则我不会既带上照相机又带上摄像机去滑雪,因为那样会很影响滑雪的Performance。 毕竟滑雪是我的主业, 照相摄影只是顺手牵羊之举。本末绝对不可倒置。
总之, 这个SX210IS满足了鄙人今年的选材标准。当然不同的人有不同的要求。这个世界上的真理其实就是没有最好,只有合适。只要合适自己的要求就好了。
当然我觉的Arooga同雪给大伙指明了更加专业的方向,对摄影效果比滑雪更重视的, 或者荷包鼓鼓的不差钱的同雪一定要认真借鉴。
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-3 00:13
smellfish 发表于 2010-12-2 23:46 
LZ害人,我也想整个口袋相机了,个人喜欢canon s95.
说说你选S95的理由工大伙参考嘛。
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-3 00:14
paul_zhou 发表于 2010-12-2 23:36 
我不管,我要1080P
理由成立。 你那个最多支持多大的卡?
作者: arooga 时间: 2010-12-3 01:00
c_sea 发表于 2010-12-3 00:14 
理由成立。 你那个最多支持多大的卡?
如果我没记错 好像是1080i 30针的速度 录3-4分钟就1GB. ....不知道1080p对空间的要求
作者: arooga 时间: 2010-12-3 01:17
在看black's的flyer Nikon Coolpix L110卖210 够便宜就是揣口袋里不方便 .....
作者: xinxinqi 时间: 2010-12-3 08:51
1、Canon(佳能)powershot系列的SD和SX没有什么硬件上的区别;
2、Canon Powershot SD3500 IS 14.1 MP ELPH Camera
和
Canon PowerShot SX210 IS Digital Camera 在硬件上也是同一款机子。
其中
“Canon PowerShot SX210 IS Digital Camera”为该机在中国大陆的型号命名;
“Canon Powershot SD3500 IS 14.1 MP ELPH Camera”为该机在欧美等地区的型号命名。
3、Canon PowerShot系列理论上可以支持32GB SD或者以上更大的SD卡。
但16G以上容量的SD卡,在该机的兼容性尚须经过实践试机才能鉴定。
作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-12-3 09:17
c_sea 发表于 2010-12-3 01:13 
说说你选S95的理由工大伙参考嘛。
Depreview正好前段时间做了市场上3款相机横向评测,可以参考. 不过作为滑雪专用相机的话,可能都不太好. 我只是想有个口袋相机.
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Conclusion In the previous pages you'll be able to see plenty of discussion of the various strengths and weaknesses of these three cameras, but the bottom line is that all three are capable of truly excellent results. Indeed, as far as image quality is concerned, and taking all considerations (not just resolution) into account, images from the S95, P7000 and LX5 are amongst the best we've ever seen from any compact camera. Although it is possible to make distinctions between the output of the three models, in the final analysis the main differences between them are operational and ergonomic.
Canon Powershot S95 - Pros - Very good image quality, particularly at lower ISO settings
- Generally well optimized JPEGs with good color response
- High ISO performance good up to ISO 800 (and higher if processed from RAW)
- Sharp 28-105mm (equivalent) zoom range with effective stabilization
- Fast, responsive operation, and impressive buffer
- Good LCD screen - bright and high-contrast
- Exposure preview live view and accurate virtual histogram
- Effective manual controls (including excellent Control Ring)
- Face detection / tracking AF modes
- Compact, very well constructed
Canon Powershot S95 - Cons - Tendency to underexpose when presented with large highlight areas (such as sky)
- AWB can deliver different color rendition depending on screen composition
- Fringing can be a problem around high-contrast edges (like foliage against a bright sky)
- No control over noise reduction (although noise is well controlled by default)
- Optical zoom and AF unavailable in movie mode
- Flash underpowered (but this is far from unusual)
- Manual focus preview too low res to be useful (and tends to give the false impression of being in focus)
- Lack of 'proper' grip can make handling awkward (especially one-handed).
- Relatively poor battery life
Nikon Coolpix P7000 - Pros - Very good image quality, particularly at lower ISO settings
- Excellent video mode - including external mic socket, optical zoom and AF
- High ISO performance excellent up to ISO 800 (and higher if processed from RAW)
- Good flash metering
- Versatile (and sharp) 28-200mm (equivalent) lens
- Exceptional amount of manual control possible
- Good LCD screen - very high-resolution
- External mic socket and inbuilt stereo microphone
- RAW capability with decent RAW conversion software included
- Well-featured in-camera RAW conversion
- Useful electronic virtual horizon
- Well-proportioned hand grip
- Good battery life
Nikon Coolpix P7000 - Cons - Bafflingly unuseful 'Fn' button
- Slow operational speed (especially in RAW mode)
- 'Button lag' a depressing aspect of virtually any menu interaction
- Occasional (and unpredictable) AF failures
- Poor optical viewfinder (bordering on pointless)
- Occasional underexposure issues when presented with bright areas in a scene
- Unpleasantly yellow colors under tungsten lighting
- Bulky compared to competition (and lacks the articulated LCD screen of Canon's similarly-sized G-series)
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5 - Pros - Very good image quality, particularly at lower ISO settings
- Versatile video mode and good video quality (although sensor blooming is an issue in some situations)
- High ISO performance very good up to ISO 800 (and higher if processed from RAW)
- Reliable focus and white balance (although colors can be rather cool in daylight)
- Extremely bright F2-3.3 lens
- Useful 24mm equiv. wide angle to 90mm (equivalent) range
- Accessible, quick-to-use manual controls
- Useful external aspect ratio switch
- High-resolution 16:9 and 3:2 aspect ratio modes (thanks to multi-aspect sensor)
- Exceptional amount of customization options
- Face recognition works well (more than just a gimmick)
- Decent handgrip (much better than LX3)
- iA mode very handy for snapshots
- Compact, very well built
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5 - Cons - Poor buffer in RAW mode, rather uninspiring continuous shooting performance in general
- Color rendition can be rather cool
- Sensor blooming can be a problem in some video shooting situations (albeit extremely occasionally)
- LCD screen gives poor indication of actual exposure/color (especially outdoors)
- Rear dial can be rather awkward to manipulate with cold/gloved fingers
- 'silver on silver' rear control labels virtually unreadable
- Menus lengthy and can be confusing (in PASM modes)
- AF mode switch easy to knock by accident
- Fiddly lens cap design (we'd prefer an equivalent to Ricoh's LC-1)
Overall conclusion The market which these three cameras occupy today is very different to that into which their predecessors were released. At their current pricepoints, there isn't a huge financial gap between any of these three models and the low-end DSLRs which have squeezed most of the life out of the once crowded high-end compact market. However, to dismiss them as too expensive, or too limited in functionality compared to a DSLR is to miss the point entirely. The people most likely to purchase these cameras are existing DSLR owners that want a more compact alternative to their large, bulky kit, with a minimal sacrifice in image quality.
All three of these cameras fulfill this need, although of the three, we're most impressed by the Canon S95 and Panasonic LX5, which combine excellent image quality with hassle-free ergonomics and genuinely compact bodies. The Nikon Coolpix P7000 turns out great images but is considerably larger and heavier, and- crucially - its poor operational speed (especially in RAW mode) is impossible to overlook. We're sorry to say that this makes it a profoundly unlikeable camera.
Image Quality As far as image quality is concerned, none of these three cameras disappoint. All of them are capable of detailed, colorful results in JPEG mode, and even in poor light, noise is well-controlled considering the size of their sensors. At higher ISO settings best results are achieved by careful manipulation of their RAW output, but even JPEGs look fine at small print sizes or for sharing on the web. In terms of critical image quality, there isn't much between them, but if we had to pick one camera purely on the basis of image quality we'd probably plump for the S95, for its sharp, detailed JPEGs.
It's a close run thing though - the P7000 gives excellent images, especially from RAW files and although it is slightly noisier at its highest ISO settings, the LX5 is capable of extremely high quality output. The LX5's trump card, of course, is its multi-aspect sensor, which can turn out higher-resolution images at its various aspect ratios than the S95 or P7000. If you enjoy shooting panoramics, we'd certainly recommend the LX5 over the other two cameras here.
Handling Handling is of course largely a subjective matter, and there is no substitute for actually picking up and using a camera and drawing your own conclusions. That said, there are some ergonomic quirks to all three of these cameras which we think are worth pointing out. In general, in terms of their operational ergonomics, all three work well. They are all designed to provide the maximum of manual control over photography, and in this respect, they all succeed. We like the dual control dials of the P7000 and (especially) the Canon S95, but the LX5's single dial, push-to-switch system works well, and soon becomes second-nature.
If you're looking for a genuinely 'compact' compact camera the Canon S95 is worth serious consideration. It's the smallest and least-expensive camera in this group, and although we'd like to see Canon add a grip of some sort, it is comfortable and easy to use, as well as being slim enough to fit inside a shirt pocket. The LX5 isn't much larger, but it is significantly less pocketable than the S95, thanks to its larger lens. The LX5 is less pocketable as a consequence, but still relatively compact, and a great deal easier to tote around than a DSLR. If you're the sort of person that loves buttons and dials we'd direct you towards the P7000 (or the soon to be tested Canon Powershot G12).
However, whilst the P7000's 'hands on' ergonomics are supposed to make the camera easier for the enthusiast to get to grips with, its quirky interface, intermittantly unresponsive controls and pitiful operational speed make the camera as a whole feel like a throwback to an era that we hoped we'd seen the back of.
PerformanceWe've already seen that in terms of its operational speed and AF reliability, the Nikon P7000 is the weakest of these three cameras as far as performance is concerned. However, we will admit (through gritted teeth) that these aren't necessarily fatal flaws - JPEG shooters might be happy enough with the P7000's performance, and the occasional AF failures didn't prove to be a major annoyance during our time with the camera. Harder to overlook is the perennial 'button lag' which blights the P7000's handling, but it should be stressed that despite these issues, the performance of the P7000's other systems (such as metering and WB) is extremely high, as is image quality.
Decent pictures aren't enough to redeem the P7000 in our opinion though, because ultimately, the Canon S95 and Panasonic LX5 also kick out great images, boast equally reliable systems (more so in the case of AF) and offer considerably slicker, faster operation. It is worth noting that although we haven't tested it (yet), we'd be very surprised if the same could not be said of the Canon Powershot G12. The LX5 isn't a particularly fast camera in RAW mode, and its 3-frame buffer is disappointing, but we never felt that it was keeping us waiting in the same way as the P7000. The Canon Powershot S95 is the fastest of the three cameras by some margin, and even in RAW mode, it is pleasantly swift and responsive.
The Final Word This review is not intended to provide a comprehensive overview of the current state of the high-end compact market. There are only three cameras on test here, and conspicuous by its absence is the Canon Powershot G12, which for logistical reasons will be given a separate test (and its samples incorporated into the comparison pages as soon as possible). What this review is intended to do is to assess three of the most recent, and most interesting high-end compact cameras on the market, through detailed comparison alongside one another. The benefit of this approach is that every time we found a particular quirk, or point of interest on one of the three, we were able to turn directly to the other two cameras for a direct comparison.
At the end of this (lengthy) exercise, we are left feeling very positive about the current state of the high-end compact market. Ultimately, we can't think of a single camera of this type, at this level, which we would consider unequivocally 'bad'. Of the three models in this test, our least favorite is the Nikon Coolpix P7000, but this is purely down to its operational speed and ragged handling. As far as image quality is concerned, it - like the S95 and LX5 - is absolutely excellent.
Basically, what this means is that if you're considering purchasing one of these cameras, you don't need to worry about image quality. They are all - to any practical extent - essentially on a level. What differentiates them is their feature sets and their handling. The dpreview office is somewhat divided on which is the 'best' camera of the three, but on balance, we consider that the Canon S95 is the most pleasant to use. Although it lacks the huge range of customization available from the LX5, or the versatility of the P7000's 28-200mm (equivalent) lens, the S95 is exceptionally quick, very portable, and produces great images. If you want more manual control, and you like the idea of a faster lens, there is no doubt - the LX5 is the camera for you. Given that the S95 and LX5 offer extremely similar image quality, unless you really need the 200mm (equivalent) lens, we would recommend both over the P7000, which languishes firmly in third place in this test.

Scoring is relative only to the other cameras in the same category.
Canon PowerShot S95
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| The S95 is a subtle upgrade to its predecessor, but the improvements are worthwhile - refined ergonomics, a higher-resolution video mode and added customizability all make the S95 more appealing than the S90. Image quality is very high, and the small bodyshell makes the S95 the most genuinely 'compact' camera in this sector of the market.
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Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5
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Nikon Coolpix P7000
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作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-3 10:59
xinxinqi 发表于 2010-12-3 08:51 
1、Canon(佳能)powershot系列的SD和SX没有什么硬件上的区别;
2、Canon Powershot SD3500 IS 14.1 MP ELPH ...
老兄,sx210is 在北美各大商场有卖啊,不明白为什么说是为中国命名?
作者: xinxinqi 时间: 2010-12-3 11:12
c_sea 发表于 2010-12-3 10:59 
老兄,sx210is 在北美各大商场有卖啊,不明白为什么说是为中国命名?
可能是才转过来的.
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-3 11:19
本帖最后由 c_sea 于 2010-12-3 11:21 编辑
xinxinqi 发表于 2010-12-3 08:51 
1、Canon(佳能)powershot系列的SD和SX没有什么硬件上的区别;
2、Canon Powershot SD3500 IS 14.1 MP ELPH ...
参考这个吧,很专业
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/SX210IS/SX210ISDAT.HTM
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/SD4500IS/SD4500ISDAT.HTM
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/SD3500IS/SD3500ISDAT.HTM
Canon 自己的网站
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/digital_cameras
Canon 把Sx210is 归于
High-End, Advanced Digital Cameras
把SD归于
Performance and Style, Digital ELPH Cameras
如果从归类的理解来看, SD 是比SX要低一个档次。
以上仅供参考, 请读者自行鉴别购买。
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-3 11:22
arooga 发表于 2010-12-3 01:17 
在看black's的flyer Nikon Coolpix L110卖210 够便宜就是揣口袋里不方便 .....
没错, 所以我对这一类 一律不予考虑。
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-3 11:43
arooga 发表于 2010-12-3 01:00 
如果我没记错 好像是1080i 30针的速度 录3-4分钟就1GB. ....不知道1080p对空间的要求 ...
我那段测试的录像, 1‘46“,1280*760P HD, 文件大小380M。 简单换算一下就是: 217M / 1 min = 12.72 GB / 1 hour
根据SD card association 的要求, 拍HD 录像至少要Class 4(不一定稳定), 推荐 Class 6 , 最好Class 10 的 SD card。 所以我已经为此相机订了一个Class 6 的 32 GB 的SD card.
作者: paul_zhou 时间: 2010-12-3 11:50
还得要看这电池的能力,等我的到了以后,也来段测试
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-3 11:56
paul_zhou 发表于 2010-12-3 11:50 
还得要看这电池的能力,等我的到了以后,也来段测试
你的1080p 的录像, 搞不好要class 10 的卡,哈哈, 等着再掏一次腰包吧。
作者: xinxinqi 时间: 2010-12-3 12:02
等价再降一点,就去买sx210is.
作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-12-3 12:08
paul_zhou 发表于 2010-12-3 11:50 
还得要看这电池的能力,等我的到了以后,也来段测试
买多一块电池吧, 我的sx210is 的电池, ebay 上买只要几块钱,含运费。
作者: paul_zhou 时间: 2010-12-3 12:11
我定了一块class 10的,不过只有16G
作者: 金色年华 时间: 2010-12-5 22:08
c_sea 发表于 2010-12-3 00:09 
回复 arooga 的帖子
Arooga 的要求很高很专业。 可惜满足这些条件又要小巧的机器可以说没有。 我原先也考 ...
嘻嘻,真理还是越辩越明,那吾就到市场上搜索 Canon Powershot SX210IS 去了.
作者: replay2007 时间: 2010-12-11 22:19
学习一哈子~
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