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标题: 这个单板和普通单板有何区别？ [打印本页]

作者: smilefish 时间: 2012-12-7 21:27
标题: 这个单板和普通单板有何区别？
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作者: luvski 时间: 2012-12-7 22:06
不懂回答。非常喜欢这个片子！

作者: Brady 时间: 2012-12-7 22:23
题目没看清，我以为又来了一个单板和双板有何区别，我们有一个那个主题就够够的了。

作者: b-p 时间: 2012-12-7 22:25
单板bbr？

作者: snowman 时间: 2012-12-7 22:25
本帖最后由 snowman 于 2012-12-7 22:30 编辑

This kind of snowboard is called Alpine snowboard.

It often goes with Alpine (metal) plate binding and hard boots (very similar to ski boots). This kind of setup is very good for racing and extreme carving. All the Board-crossing riders and speed racers in Winter Olympic use these kind of boards. (Last two seasons in MSLM, I often seen some Alpine snowboarders with hard boots doing extreme carving.)

However, you may notice the Alpine snowboarder in this video is equipped with regular (plastic) binding and soft boots. This kind of setup is quite popular in Japan, which allows the rider to enjoy this Alpine snowboard as normal snowboard but can also taste the capability of racing and extreme carving. It is often used as a transition stage before the rider fully commit to Alpine snowboarding.

作者: toronto_ray 时间: 2012-12-7 22:33
本帖最后由 toronto_ray 于 2012-12-7 22:38 编辑

你问的是燕尾吧？泡得利器，燕尾设计让板尾下沉，板头就轻松浮在白粉上了

作者: snowman 时间: 2012-12-7 22:59
本帖最后由 snowman 于 2012-12-7 23:01 编辑

toronto_ray 发表于 2012-12-7 22:33
你问的是燕尾吧？泡得利器，燕尾设计让板尾下沉，板头就轻松浮在白粉上了 ...

There are many different types Alpine snowboard, four main types of Alpine boards that cater to carving: Race, Freecarve, All-Mountain, and Boardercross.

Ray, you are right. The swallowtail Alpine board is one special kind of Alpine snowboard, particularly designed for surfing turns in powder. Below are some information for your reference.

Swallowtail powder board:

Regular freestyle boards don't work well in powder because they are too short, don't have enough taper, and lack adequate flotation. As a result, you will always be putting all your weight on your back foot - your back leg will get really sore, and it's not fun. For deep powder days, forget the carving board and go with a swallowtail, a rocket-shaped board designed for surfing turns in powder. The swallowtail has a few characteristics that make it great for bottomless pow-pow:

• A wide gap in the tail, which allows it to naturally sink in powder without requiring excessive back foot pressure, allowing you to be centered on the board. As a result, it really feels like surfing. In addition, the gap in the tail allows you to turn the board without losing speed.

• A nose that comes to a point (boat-hull), which causes the board to rise to the surface and float on top of the powder. The nose of the swallowtail is generally immune from diving.

• A softer nose, to further enhance the float.

• It often has a large taper, which means the width of the board decreases when going from the nose to the tail. The large taper helps with flotation.

• They tend to be longer - up to 200 cm. The extra length provides good flotation and makes them go fast, but it also means they are sluggish when turning. Not all of them are maneuverable through trees. If you are going on a heli-trip, and the terrain is mostly wide open, go with a swallowtail, but if the terrain includes glades and trees, the swallowtail may not be maneuverable enough.

• Due to the deep gap in the tail, swallowtails lack torsional stiffness and are not good at carving on groomers: they will typically vibrate and nervously flop around when carving at high speed. Some swallowtails are uniquely unsuited to groomers.

Most swallowtails can be ridden with soft boots or softer hard boots, and one good option is to use the older (and now discontinued) snowboard hard boots with fully lugged soles, like the Raichle 121 or the Raichle Snowboarder. Swallowtails also require some care when riding, since it is possible to break one of the tail sections if you apply too much leverage on hard snow, especially with plate bindings.

http://www.alpinecarving.com/boards.html

作者: smilefish 时间: 2012-12-7 23:19

toronto_ray 发表于 2012-12-7 22:33
你问的是燕尾吧？泡得利器，燕尾设计让板尾下沉，板头就轻松浮在白粉上了 ...

谢谢，你咋不整一个？

作者: smilefish 时间: 2012-12-7 23:19

snowman 发表于 2012-12-7 22:59
There are many different types Alpine snowboard, four main types of Alpine boards that cater to ca ...

谢谢，你也该整一个

作者: snowman 时间: 2012-12-8 09:53

smilefish 发表于 2012-12-7 23:19
谢谢，你也该整一个

魚，也許真被你說中，我的下一個玩具很可能就是Alpine snowboard + metal plate binding + hard boots。

我在夏季玩長板時結識了一長板好手，只跟他學了兩次，基本上我就已經能很” 優雅” 地玩hand-down toeslide sliding/turn 及 hand-down heelside sliding/turn。

也是他告訴我這樣的長板 hand-down sliding技巧和Alpine snowboarding 的extreme carving 技巧非常類似。而他在雪季時也是一般單板及Alpine 單板交互著玩的。

這也是他建議我先用一般單板及soft boots先試著體會在雪地上hand-down slide/turn 的感覺。如果不幸玩上了癃而想要更進一步追求extreme carving 的極致快感時，再添購真正的Alpine snowboard + metal plate binding + hard boots。他自己當初也就是這樣走過來的。

魚，如果你也玩單板的話，也可以先試試用一般單板及soft boots玩玩hand-down slide/turn。說不定你會比我更先上癃，搶先進了同雪網的第一塊Alpine snowboard。哈哈！

作者: snowman 时间: 2012-12-8 10:12

其實用一般單板及soft boots 就已經能玩出很漂亮的extreme carving，如果你技巧夠純熟的話。

BTW, extreme carving 發源於歐洲，很多人也叫它Euro carving。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3-s1nXVPYQ

作者: smilefish 时间: 2012-12-8 10:54

snowman 发表于 2012-12-8 09:53
魚，也許真被你說中，我的下一個玩具很可能就是Alpine snowboard + metal plate binding + hard boots。 ...

雪人大哥，谢谢你详细的介绍，等俺双板进步了后，会来学习单板：）

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