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标题: 抓住秋天的尾巴,我们应该搞一组这样的外拍 [打印本页]

作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-10-15 18:07
标题: 抓住秋天的尾巴,我们应该搞一组这样的外拍
虽然摄影师比Joe差点,但是我们灯光师好啊 :-)

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Shot this the other week in Tampa, of our wonderful model Hope, doing her best Lady GaGa on stage in front of adoring fans. We occasionally end our days teaching lighting for Kelby Seminars this way. One little light, way far away.
Been playing with line of sight forever, and am very involved in the beta versions of the coming Pocket Wizards for Nikon TTL. More on that soon, as the units evolve through testing phase.
But, right now, I am content to mess around, sometimes surprisingly, with how far I can trigger a light. This light is an SB900, zoomed to 200mm, at the back of the auditorium, probably 70′ from the stage. 1/250th at f2.8, ISO 400. The folks in the audience stood up and went gaga (ouch!) for Hope.
Which of course blocked my hot shoe flash commander from seeing the light in the back. D’oh! (I swear, sometimes I am Homer Simpson with a camera.) Drew and an SC29 cord to the rescue! He held the light up off camera and got the light to trigger. You can tell he’s doing that, cuz the cord shadow is right there on the seamless, in the lower left:-)
Okay, indoor trigger, controlled environment–doable. Outdoors, another story. Tried an experiment of late at the New Hampshire version of DLWS. The bridge must have been (being conservative here) 150′ away. Proceeding on the premise that the Lord looks after a fool, we first tried withKevin Dobler holding an SB900, and me trying to trigger from the bridge with an SU800. Didn’t work, which figures, ’cause there is an IR shield on that unit, which has to sap the optical signal over distance.

Then, Drew Gurian, and Mike Grippi, both from my studio got out there, and I tried triggering with a hot shoe mounted SB900, no dome diffuser, zoomed to 200mm, and still no go.

Here’s where it got interesting. It was pretty dim conditions, lots of rain and mist, and the TTL transmission was not working, line of sight, over that difference. When the light sensor panel on an SB900 is in TTL remote mode, it is looking for a specific frequency of light from the master unit. In other words, there is a specific language being exchanged, if you will, where the master unit pulses with a signal that is bundled with information for the remote. As we have said many times, kind of a morse code for flash.
So, I let things loose, and Drew set up the remote flash as an SU-4, non-TTL, manually slaving flash unit. Over the years, I have always been impressed with how sensitive this mode of triggering actually is. Set up in SU-4, the remote flash is simply reacting to any sudden increase or pulse of light, and not looking for a specific signal to direct it how to behave. I’ve had SU-4 flashes, for instance, triggered in NYC by an emergency vehicle passing by a block away. So, now my master is firing in straight up manual flash mode, full power, M 1/1, still zoomed to max, 200mm.

Voila! Ze flash, it fire! Of course, it’s a dumb as a post manual unit now, and not a “smart” flash, driven by TTL signals originating back at camera. To change the power settings, I have to shout to Drew. That didn’t work, ’cause we were so far away, over a rushing stream, so, by golly, AT&T actually stepped up to the plate, and I was able to call his cell. More power!

Now, the camera’s in manual mode, and the flash is in manual mode, and I am just playing that time honored background/foreground game. Grippi is zapped with the light, and the scene is muted via the combo of shutter speed/f-stop. But, here’s the thing. The flash is neutral–white light. Tends to not actually blend in with the forest scene, yeah? Little bright, little white. Calls attention to the not particularly artful use of the flash.

So, I threw a gel on the flash to warm it. A full CTO does two things simultaneously–warm the flash, and cut the power. Now the ruggged Grippi looks a bit more appropriate to the scene, even though he’s much more comfortable in Bushwick, Brooklyn, than the woods of New Hampshire.
But then, a strange thing happened. Manual SU-4 triggering mode stopped working. Just gave up. I speculate that the light level had picked up at that point, so the light sensor on the remote flash was not longer picking up a differentiation in the levels of light. My commander flash would pulse, and I’d get nothing on the remote. Hmmmm…..
On a whim and a prayer, I went back to TTL. Damned if it didn’t start working again, and very consistently. Full TTL control, from here to there.

Back to aperture priority mode. Minus two at the camera EV. Pretty straight up, power wise, on the flash. Cool! One reason this worked was, typically, a suggestion from Moose. I keep my plastic filter holders on my flashes, just as a matter of convenience. He told me to try the commander, sans the filter holder. Sure enough, I put the filter holder to my eye, and the plastic is not completely clear. Has a bit of a plastic haze to it. So, in the brightening of the day, from 150′ plus, we had TTL, aperture priority exposure control. Go figure.

All images made with the new Nikkor 28-300 zoom, which actually worked very well for this.
On another note, if you’re on the other side of the world, be sure to check out our 2011 Asian Tour website, hosted by Louis Pang, our good friend, and great shooter based in Malaysia. We’re running some amazing deals right now that end on Monday, so if you’re thinking about going, now’s the time to sign up…click here for more info.

作者: kick 时间: 2010-10-15 19:51
沙发。

作者: JamesBond 时间: 2010-10-15 20:51
1，要有器材；
2，要有时间；
3，要有地点。

作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-10-15 21:48
我们不缺器材不缺美女帅哥不缺地点,只缺追逐美丽的决绝.

作者: luvski 时间: 2010-10-15 22:03

smellfish 发表于 2010-10-15 22:48
我们不缺器材不缺美女帅哥不缺地点,只缺追逐美丽的决绝.

好！我报名给你去抗摄影包。

作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-10-15 22:30
俺是个简约主义者,追求器材的最小化简化,所以摄影包不重,不用美女扛. 美女就在镜头前面想想心思出出神,好片就来了.

作者: kick 时间: 2010-10-15 22:31

smellfish 发表于 2010-10-15 22:30
俺是个简约主义者,追求器材的最小化简化,所以摄影包不重,不用美女扛. 美女就在镜头前面想想心思出出神,好片 ...

你啥时拍动作片？我想出镜。

作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-10-15 23:37
11月6日.

作者: 暖暖阳光 时间: 2010-10-15 23:45
期待，期待

作者: 小片儿刀 时间: 2010-10-15 23:46
外拍？我喜欢
拍帅哥？我更喜欢

作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-10-16 00:29
那就11月6号都来吧!!

作者: lulu 时间: 2010-10-16 05:54

kick 发表于 2010-10-15 23:31
你啥时拍动作片？我想出镜。

听说有美女就想当动作片主角了？

作者: skisnowboardca 时间: 2010-10-16 07:17
期待大片~~~~

作者: vicboy™ 时间: 2010-10-16 12:22

smellfish 发表于 2010-10-16 00:37
11月6日.

有为艺术而牺牲的吗?要不要我把某某美女捧红.

作者: luvski 时间: 2010-10-16 21:38

smellfish 发表于 2010-10-16 01:29
那就11月6号都来吧!!

11月6号？！

作者: ouer2010 时间: 2010-10-17 09:41
我想蹭拍一下，可以吗？

作者: freshair 时间: 2010-10-17 10:25

ouer2010 发表于 2010-10-17 10:41
我想蹭拍一下，可以吗？

打板代表欢迎你！

作者: ouer2010 时间: 2010-10-17 10:31

freshair 发表于 2010-10-17 11:25
打板代表欢迎你！

那先谢谢了

作者: skisnowboardca 时间: 2010-10-17 12:18
本帖最后由 skisnowboardca 于 2010-10-17 13:19 编辑

人性美大师和自然美大师携手出击~~~~

和众多CREATIVE的大脑们~~~

严重期待~~~

作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-10-17 13:30
11月6日应该是拍动作片啦,主要是室内, 欢迎所有人带上你们的相机和摄像机来交流,具体等熊导最后确认场地后出通知.

作者: 小片儿刀 时间: 2010-10-17 20:38
啊？室内剧？
不出外景啦，导演？

作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-10-17 21:18
棚子老不容易才租下来的呢,外景免费.啥时候都行.

作者: arooga 时间: 2010-10-17 21:23

smellfish 发表于 2010-10-17 22:18
棚子老不容易才租下来的呢,外景免费.啥时候都行.

啥棚子？摄影棚？大的小的？

作者: 小片儿刀 时间: 2010-10-17 21:29

smellfish 发表于 2010-10-17 22:18
棚子老不容易才租下来的呢,外景免费.啥时候都行.

好隆重...
女一号是？男一号是？

作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-10-17 21:34
一切等熊导最终通知.

作者: arooga 时间: 2010-10-17 21:46

smellfish 发表于 2010-10-17 22:34
一切等熊导最终通知.

看来这角色要内定了可能已经敲定了

作者: lulu 时间: 2010-10-17 22:06

skisnowboardca 发表于 2010-10-17 13:18
人性美大师和自然美大师携手出击~~~~ 和众多CREATIVE的大脑们~~~
严重期待~~~ ...

人性鱼，自然麦，遮光嚏，打板保，美女空与领导熊，阵容空前，当作圣诞献礼吧

作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-10-17 22:06
本帖最后由 c_sea 于 2010-10-17 23:07 编辑

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外拍改内摄了，时装秀变动作片了？强烈要求总导演给安排一个可以露脸开口说话的龙套。　

作者: lulu 时间: 2010-10-17 22:28
真的很期望能跟各位大师合作，可惜档期不合适，只好抱恨

作者: arooga 时间: 2010-10-17 22:29

lulu 发表于 2010-10-17 23:28
真的很期望能跟各位大师合作，可惜档期不合适，只好抱恨

你该说求包养随便拍管饭就行......

作者: paul_zhou 时间: 2010-10-17 23:41
强烈要求不开口跑龙套，只求露脸。

作者: skisnowboardca 时间: 2010-10-18 06:20
强烈抱恨，只好等看大片了

作者: luvski 时间: 2010-10-18 07:27

lulu 发表于 2010-10-17 23:06
人性鱼，自然麦，遮光嚏，打板保，美女空与领导熊，阵容空前，当作圣诞献礼吧 ...

咋把犀利哥噜给漏了呢？

作者: smellfish 时间: 2010-10-18 12:21
犀利哥该不是出国发展了吧

作者: c_sea 时间: 2010-10-18 18:57

paul_zhou 发表于 2010-10-18 00:41
强烈要求不开口跑龙套，只求露脸。

若露前脸有困难的话，　恳请导演酌情考虑予以泡哥露后脸。　

作者: ouer2010 时间: 2010-10-19 15:17

smellfish 发表于 2010-10-17 14:30
11月6日应该是拍动作片啦,主要是室内, 欢迎所有人带上你们的相机和摄像机来交流,具体等熊导最后确认场地后 ...

室内动作片，这个难度高

作者: lulu 时间: 2010-10-19 15:37

luvski 发表于 2010-10-18 08:27
咋把犀利哥噜给漏了呢？

什么领导啊，乱给群众起外号

作者: lulu 时间: 2010-10-19 15:38

c_sea 发表于 2010-10-18 19:57
若露前脸有困难的话，　恳请导演酌情考虑予以泡哥露后脸。　

想起一个以前听的恐怖故事，该故事直接导致俺坚持了几个学期，每天4000米的跑步训练中断

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