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标题: [回忆录]和胖妞的第一次约会 [打印本页]

作者: 几亩瓜    时间: 2011-4-8 11:27
标题: [回忆录]和胖妞的第一次约会
本帖最后由 几亩瓜 于 2011-4-8 12:30 编辑

你约会过胖妞吗? 腰要够粗, 80以上吧,  能谈谈你的感受吗?

其实目前我只感兴趣道上滑, 要是谈点野雪啥的, 也欢迎.

作者: lupo    时间: 2011-4-8 12:24
没碰过,暂时只对细腰雪道板感兴趣。
作者: lupo    时间: 2011-4-8 12:28
几亩瓜  me too, 但我很想知道大佬们猎艳的感受


嘿嘿!我们专一绣花针!
作者: 几亩瓜    时间: 2011-4-8 12:48
读了一些文章,才知道腰越瘦的板子, 越容易carving, 怪不得我没费什么周折呢
作者: lulu    时间: 2011-4-8 13:29
几亩瓜  me too, 但我很想知道大佬们猎艳的感受  发表于 半小时前

平常人连个柴火妞都娶不起,老大们跟你炫耀环肥燕瘦,咱也不懂。就像人家跟你描述官燕漱口的滋味,可你一肚子地瓜干儿直往上泛酸水儿,倒是很想听听瓜瓜你看到了老大们把你扔到一屋子莺莺燕燕里的感受
作者: 几亩瓜    时间: 2011-4-8 13:36
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你咋跟蛔虫一样嘞, 人家泛酸水你也知道的这么清楚.

咋说呢, 除了泛酸水儿, 还可以发挥一下咱强大的YY功能同乐一番呗, 要真是给老大说动了, 就开始向ld打申请呗. 要是没批准, 就接着泛酸水, YY呗.

作者: 几亩瓜    时间: 2011-4-8 13:46
HH said:
Today I skied and tested the "Jam" by "Movement". I skied the 182cm it's a 135- 84-117 shape in that length. 17 meter radius and it turns tighter carves than the Peak 78 or Monster 78. The 172 is a 16 meter turn radius and it makes even tighter turns. This will ski like a Shamon in powder, but it rocks great turns on hard groomers, and it holds on hard snow without bucking your knees.. I skied crud and it busted right through. I have a pair now and am bringing them to Europe.
Today I skied and tested the "Jam" by "Movement". I skied the 182cm it's a 135- 84-117 shape in that length. 17 meter radius and it turns tighter carves than the Peak 78 or Monster 78. The 172 is a 16 meter turn radius and it makes even tighter turns. This will ski like a Shamon in powder, but it rocks great turns on hard groomers, and it holds on hard snow without bucking your knees.. I skied crud and it busted right through. I have a pair now and am bringing them to Europe.

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HH mentions the Jam as an all around ski, or phrased differently, a ski that can be used in all conditions. Notice that he compared it to the IM78 and the IM84, skis HH really likes but doesn't suggest as a standard daily PMTS learning ski. At 82mm at the waist the Jam will still take more tipping effort than a ski with a waist in the 65-70mm range. And since most of us need to increase our tipping skills the SS and TT80 are likely the better choice for learning and perfecting PMTS movements. So, the Jam ends up being a great compliment to those skis for someone that wants to ski all over the mountain.

HH:

Let me clear this up, you have to be a competent at carving or brushing connected short turns to make this an every day ski; as it requires speed and energy to be tipped. It's not a slow speed learning ski. It's too wide for that. So it does not replace a TT80 or Super Shape for learning purposes. Put in other words, you have to be ale to make a flexing or retraction short turn to use this ski without being forced into either huge turns or really skidded short turns. That said it is a great intro to powder skiing ski.
Hard to say, as I skied totally different snow on each. The Jam is wider at the tip and tail, so it will float and ski more like a shaped ski in Powder. I was surprised how well it tipped on packed snow, it was easier to carve than the Titan and the Elan Apex, which is an 88cm ski. I'll probably be able to test them side buy side, after I return from Europe.





作者: TonyLin    时间: 2011-4-8 16:19
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用过腰宽96mm的Volkl Mantra和111mm的Volkl Katana,在groom的道上都可以carving。当然不会像carving ski那么灵活。Katana是我这个season的everyday ski。

作者: iFloat    时间: 2011-4-8 20:38
太复杂了。 我的经验是三围越火爆越容易Carving, 同胖瘦没有直接的关系。 胖妞养眼 瘦妞养身
作者: Phoenixtear    时间: 2011-4-8 21:48
本帖最后由 Phoenixtear 于 2011-4-8 21:49 编辑

我的twintip板子,板腰90mm的,在东部算很宽很宽的雪板了,但目前是我最喜欢的两块雪板之一
作者: Phoenixtear    时间: 2011-4-8 21:57
几亩瓜  三维,谢谢  发表于 3 分钟前


sidecut 16m, 没有拿它滑过powder, 因为本人目前没见过(除非有人硬要把蓝山那种雪也算上的话)。反正我用它无论是正滑倒滑飞包走铁杆采蘑菇滑厚雪等等都可以,比我另外一块66m板腰的小回转all mountain板强多了,唯一比不过的地方是拿这块胖妞去carving难度不小,基本要到phase 3才能在雪面上看到清晰的track。不过娱乐时我都用胖妞,除非要练技术才用回瘦板子
作者: Bingster    时间: 2011-4-8 22:24
你真有钱,我是今年(第5年),我才买了advanced intermediate ski, Rossignol Avenger 76 carbon, 用来淘汰我原来的beginner ski.
当然我也可以这样安慰自己:滑雪重要的是技术 :)
作者: 几亩瓜    时间: 2011-4-8 22:27
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老天, 我居然想和肥妞练技术....

让我好好想想

作者: Phoenixtear    时间: 2011-4-8 22:37
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Rossignol Avenger 76,在我买第三块板子时也考虑过这块,但后面考虑良久,还是选了块转弯半径在12m的小回板

作者: Phoenixtear    时间: 2011-4-8 22:38
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看你练什么技术了,想练swtich skiing, ride rails, take off jumps, float on the powder, 当然是胖妞好

作者: Phoenixtear    时间: 2011-4-8 22:41
几亩瓜  carving  发表于 57 秒前


这雪季看过一个倒着滑carving的,雪面上清晰的两条连续的痕迹,看得我都呆了。滑了2年,第一次看到有人倒着滑还可以carving的,或许你可以练练
作者: Phoenixtear    时间: 2011-4-8 22:50
几亩瓜  不过倒滑不失为一种很好练习方法  发表于 52 秒前
几亩瓜  我听着都呆了, 别逗了. 我还是往前滑吧  发表于 1 分钟前


我也是第一次见到,土豆也看到了,就上周五在蓝山的一条蓝道上
作者: Phoenixtear    时间: 2011-4-8 22:53
本帖最后由 Phoenixtear 于 2011-4-8 22:53 编辑

另外告诉你一下,倒滑比你练内脚承重容易得多,至少我是还没学会平行转弯前,就在尝试用倒八字倒滑了,学会平行转弯后1个月左右,就能倒着平行加八字了。基本上只要有人告诉你倒着滑的要领和动作,再有点胆量,花时间去多练习,基本上每个人倒着滑的水平都能下比正着滑低一个级别的道(比如说正着滑能下黑道,倒着滑就能下蓝道)
作者: Phoenixtear    时间: 2011-4-8 23:14
Bingster  Rossignol Avenger 76 半径13米,和你的12米板差不多吧。  发表于 12 分钟前


当然有差别,而且还不小。具体感觉很难说,总之当时我买板时,这块板子也试过,但是感觉很不一样。
作者: Phoenixtear    时间: 2011-4-8 23:20
Bingster  Rossignol Avenger 76 半径13米,和你的12米板差不多吧。  发表于 12 分钟前


另外这板子三围是127-76-108 raius 13m. 而我那块是118-66-102 Radius 11.5m,板腰66决定了我那块板子的灵活性和快速换刃做tight raidus turn会比那块a76要好点, a76更接近于all mountain板中的转弯半径较小的板。
作者: 几亩瓜    时间: 2011-4-8 23:22
一群汉朝的哥们, 唐朝的都哪里去了.
作者: snowfox    时间: 2011-4-9 00:28
几亩瓜 发表于 2011-4-8 11:27
你约会过胖妞吗? 腰要够粗, 80以上吧,  能谈谈你的感受吗?

其实目前我只感兴趣道上滑, 要是谈点野雪啥的,  ...

你不是滑过80以上的雪板嘛?
作者: snowfox    时间: 2011-4-9 22:39
几亩瓜  没有呀? 最高也就74了  

你试滑过海洋的板子,好像是80腰的吧?不过也许是我记错了。
作者: 姐妹龙    时间: 2011-4-9 23:37
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The versatile K2 Apache Crossfire Ski System relies on ABS sidewall construction for its exceptional edge hold and quick transitions when carving up varied terrain. This all-mountain ski's Metal Laminate Construction and MOD dampening technology provide intermediate skiers with a stable, smooth ride down the hill. The high-performance MX 12 Bindings have embedded hubs with a new, wider footprint for increased contact.
  • Radius: 16mm
  • Sidecut: 122/74/106
  • Groomed/Ungroomed: 60% - 40%
  • Fir/Aspen Wood Core
  • Standard Camber
  • Metal Laminate with ABS sidewall construction
  • MOD Monic Structure provides targeted dampening
  • MOD Technology absorbs shock across length of the ski for better edge grip
  • MX 12 Bindings have biometric toe for smarter releases
  • Bindings accommodate DIN up to 12

作者: 几亩瓜    时间: 2011-4-26 21:44
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作者: 几亩瓜    时间: 2011-4-26 22:15
In 2003, we had one rockered option available - the beloved Volant Spatula; this year we offer over 150 rockered models in our rocker skis and rocker snowboards categories for every level of rider. We've been amped for years on the concept and can't wait for everyone to experience a rockered ride.

This article describes exactly what rocker is and what type is best suited for your riding style or terrain. Tune in as we break it down real simple.

What is Rocker? There are three ingredients ski / snowboard shape:
Camber – Camber is the traditional shape for skis and snowboards. Camber is a slight arching upward curve with the bend or curve upward in the middle. A good example of camber is the Burton Custom Snowboard. Camber provides excellent turn initiation and handling on on-piste slopes.
  
Rocker – Rocker (also called reverse-camber) is just as it sounds – camber turned upside down. This term is borrowed from watersports where rocker is common. A good example of a ski that has Rocker in the tip and tail is theVolkl Gotama Skis. Rocker skis and snowboards offer superior float in the powder and are now used all over the mountain.  Rocker is no longer just for powder.
  
Flat – Flat is often found between the tip and the tail of the ski/snowboard.  It is horizontally level or even. The base is flat like a pancake. Completely flat technology can be found in the K2 Zero Snowboard.
  
These three properties: camber, rocker, and flat are combined in a variety of ways to create an array of choices for both skiers and snowboarders.
Important note - You will hear rocker referred to many ways, including but not limited to: reverse camber, inverse camber, banana, early rise, s-rocker, gull wing, three stage rocker, negative camber,
R.C. Technology, Rocker 6, elf shoe, chilly dog, and of course, my favorite, the Young-Whippersnapper's-Powder-Slaying-Weapon.
So where is the rocker? – Rocker technology differs by manufacturer as well as type of ski/snowboard. Rocker in skis and snowboards may be located in the tip and/or tail. Many skis and snowboard feature some medley of rocker, flat, and cambered sections to achieve the desired ride.  You will find skis and boards with one of these or all three.
Why is rocker so awesome? What does it do for you?
- Rocker offers increased float in the powder!With rocker, your tips will float up in powder and crud.  The feel is smooth and just like when you surf, wakeboard or waterski, rocker helps you to stay on top of the snow.  On skis, no need to do all that ridiculous bouncing and leaning back to keep your tips up in the powder. On a snowboard, your tip sits up higher out of the snow so you can avoid those face plants over your nose.  Since your tips are already in an upward position you are able to maintain a more balanced riding stance and you don’t have to lean back to float as you do on a traditional shaped ski or snowboard. Cliff drop landings are super soft with rocker. Like a pillow! You don't even feel it!
- Rocker is more maneuverable - Rocker technology moves the contact points on the ski or board, basically shortening your effective edge. Your ride becomes more nimble and maneuverable, which allows you to pivot more easily and you’ll no longer catch edges like crazy.  You can slash the snow, slide sideways to scrub speed, smear and butter turns. Turning more quickly works great when you are in the trees.
- Rocker makes park riding a dream - With rocker technology your skis/board is pre-pressed which makes riding presses in the park easier. Lock onto and slide rails with rocker boards.  You can actually hit the butter box with style since your ride is less catchy.  The less catchiness nature of the ski/board allows you to initiate your spins early and gives you greater ability to recover more easily from off axis landings.
- Rocker offers tons of style points - Everyone looks at you funny in the lift line and asks why your skis or snowboard are sticking up in the air and not sitting on the ground.  You just tell them rocker will change your life.
Who should/can ride rockered skis and snowboards?
Everyone can ride rockered skis and snowboards and have fun.  That is a beautiful thing about rocker technology. You can be a beginner or advanced rider, young or old, and benefit from riding rocker skis or snowboard.  Even Shilo Jones (evo’s president) can ride rocker! Rocker is an easier and more fun ride.  Just remember there are many variations in rocker type, go with the style that will fit the type of riding you want to do.
Where does rocker technology excel on the mountain?
There are a variety of different blends of rocker technology available between skis and snowboards that excel specifically in certain conditions – everywhere from pipe and park to hard pack or the deepest powder.





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