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作者: devilsponge 时间: 2011-1-22 09:27
标题: 关于打蜡的刷子
我的打蜡流程比较简单，也就是熨，刮而已。看youtube介绍最后还用刷子刷一遍的工序，不知道大家是否都刷，目的是什么呢？谢谢

作者: arooga 时间: 2011-1-22 09:43
在班底刷上纹路让雪水空气更容易俺指定的方向流过增加稳定性就好像汽车的流线原理
同时还能刷掉些多余的蜡让蜡更均匀
如有说错请后来的同学拍砖

作者: lupo 时间: 2011-1-22 10:03
海绵大哥，http://www.skichinese.com/forum. ... &extra=page%3D1 swix的修板打蜡说明里面有介绍。

铜刷-修板时用来刷污物清洁，打蜡之前用。
尼龙刷和黄铜刷-刮板过后给板子从头到尾抛光用，还可以刷出纹路
马毛刷-最后做清洁用

作者: arooga 时间: 2011-1-22 10:11
好你个楼上的还敢不承认自己是技术派？！

作者: espcsg 时间: 2011-1-23 19:10

devilsponge 发表于 2011-1-22 09:27
我的打蜡流程比较简单，也就是熨，刮而已。看youtube介绍最后还用刷子刷一遍的工序，不知道大家是否都 ...

Hey Sponge, it depends on what structure and wax you use. Too keep it short, brass brush are good for removing colder wax from fine structure, nylon are good for removing warmer wax from course structure. For starter you can buy a brass/nylon combo brush which will handle most of your needs. It is important to brush after waxing. Structure on your base that fill with wax will create unecessary suction that will slow down your ski, sometimes you may even feel the ski 'draggy'. Make sure you regularly clean your brush though, eventually the bristles will cloak up with wax and it won't do what it's meant to do.

I heard you're coming to tremblant, for real this time??

作者: devilsponge 时间: 2011-1-23 21:14
thanks boys, looks like it's important and I will get a brass/nylon combo brush, now, all of you mentioned that removal of wax, if you removed all wax, what's the point of putting them on in the first place?

作者: espcsg 时间: 2011-1-23 21:38
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devilsponge 发表于 2011-1-23 21:14
thanks boys, looks like it's important and I will get a brass/nylon combo brush, now, all of you men ...

P-tex is a material that can actually absorb wax. That's the point of hot waxing, you're actually pushing the wax into the base by using heat. Excessive wax on the surface are not needed. However, cold wax will need a higher temperature setting for the wax to properly sink into the base. So NEVER wax your ski with cold wax directly when your base is dry. Skis that are new, freshly grind/sturctured or with a dry base should always be prep with a few layers of warm wax first.

作者: espcsg 时间: 2011-1-23 21:39
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Nan, wanted to go whiteface but can't take a day off :(

作者: devilsponge 时间: 2011-1-23 22:10
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彻底清楚了，谢谢各位大大

作者: lupo 时间: 2011-1-23 22:12
从swix给racer修板程序节选的，应该不用这么麻烦吧！
http://www.swixsport.com/dav/c60ddc5db1.pdf
Brushes after waxing and scraping
T179B/T179O Steel Brush (or T162B/
T162O Bronze Brush)
A medium coarse steel or bronze brush to use
after waxing and scraping. 10-12 strokes. Can also
be used before waxing to clean and “open” the
base.
T160B/T160O Blue Nylon Brush
A fine soft nylon brush for polishing. 4-5 strokes.
T191B Steel Brush Ultra Fine
An ultra fine steel brush for renewal and cleaning
of bases.

作者: espcsg 时间: 2011-1-24 23:01

lupo 发表于 2011-1-23 22:12
从swix给racer修板程序节选的，应该不用这么麻烦吧！
http://www.swixsport.com/dav/c60ddc5db1.pdf
Brushe ...

Thanks for the pdf that's good resource. Race preperation is a whole different science though. What swix covered is actually a full prep for race ski, which is actually very complicated, in my humble opinion not neccessery to us average joe - their process include 2 times of hot scraping - then apply base cleaner - clean and brush (above steps are just to completely clean the base from dirt) - apply a layer of cold wax to lift any remaining p-tex hair from grinding/structuring - scrape - brush - then finally prep the ski with warm wax - scrape and brush with a steel brush to further open up the structure and should be repeat 5 to 10 times before ski was put on the snow. Don't forget all these steps are just for prep. Tech will always apply a final layer of glide wax before race start. And different tech will always have their own trade secret. Rumors said tech from atomic has the best secrets, but who knows. Any way back to the real world, I've found that different people like to prep their ski differently. I prefer to, after grinding or structuring. Lightly brush it with a steel brush - 2 times of hot scraping to clean the base - 2 to 3 layers of warm wax ( I don't scrap them in between though, I'll let it cool and run my iron with a few pass again to further push the existing wax in, save wax and less mess) - scrap and brush with a nylon brush - apply another layer of cold wax to 'lock in' the warm wax also to further lift remaining micro p-tex hair. Usually this is good enough prep for a season. But with our abrasive + men made snow eastern condition sometimes I'll find the base will still oxidize pretty bad around mid-season. And will need to do another prep again.

作者: vicboy™ 时间: 2011-1-26 20:27

espcsg 发表于 2011-1-25 00:01
Thanks for the pdf that's good resource. Race preperation is a whole different science though. Wha ...

要不要在蓝坡下面开个Mobile Tune Up Shop, you brush, brush, brush,..... I collect money?

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